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From: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net>
To: zsh-users@zsh.org
Subject: Re: grammar triviality with '&&'
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 11:31:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150302103156.GB6869@xvii.vinc17.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <150302005440.ZM16546@torch.brasslantern.com>

On 2015-03-02 00:54:40 -0800, Bart Schaefer wrote:
> On Mar 2,  3:27am, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> }
> } However "&& [ -e file2 ]" could constitute a list too. There is
> } currently a parse error, but zsh could have an extension to accept
> } it as being equivalent to: "[[ $? -eq 0 ]] && [ -e file2 ]". Would
> } there be anything wrong with such an extension?
> 
> If nothing else, the errexit option would fail.  With errexit,
> 
>     false
>     || anything
> 
> would never get beyond "false", whereas
> 
>     false || anything
> 
> proceeds at least through "anything".

I agree that's not equivalent, but this would not be a problem
in a "if ... then" construct (though I think it's a bad idea
to use such a feature here).

> You also get strange crap like
> 
>     while && this; do || if && that; then || thus; fi; done
> 
> which would mean what, exactly?

while [[ $? -eq 0 ]] && this; do [[ $? -ne 0 ]] || if [[ $? -eq 0 ]] && that; then [[ $? -ne 0 ]] || thus; fi; done

> Finally if it's OK to have nothing before && / ||, then it would also be
> syntactically OK to write
> 
>     && || && || && && ...

I disagree. Only a && or || as the first word of a list would have
a special meaning.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-02 10:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-01 16:07 Ray Andrews
2015-03-01 16:43 ` ZyX
2015-03-01 17:01   ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-01 18:48     ` Bart Schaefer
2015-03-01 19:00       ` ZyX
2015-03-01 19:16       ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-01 20:48         ` ZyX
2015-03-01 18:49     ` Lawrence Velázquez
2015-03-02  2:27       ` Vincent Lefevre
2015-03-02  3:12         ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-02  5:22           ` Lawrence Velázquez
2015-03-02  3:53         ` Kurtis Rader
2015-03-02  4:18           ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-02  5:22             ` Kurtis Rader
2015-03-02 16:17               ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-02 18:52                 ` Kurtis Rader
2015-03-02 19:03                   ` ZyX
2015-03-02 20:16                     ` Kurtis Rader
2015-03-03  4:15                       ` ZyX
2015-03-03  4:43                         ` Kurtis Rader
2015-03-04 15:03                           ` Vincent Lefevre
2015-03-04 19:07                           ` ZyX
2015-03-02 19:25                   ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-02 10:46           ` Vincent Lefevre
2015-03-02 11:06             ` Peter Stephenson
2015-03-02 19:19               ` Bart Schaefer
2015-03-04 14:47                 ` Vincent Lefevre
2015-03-05  1:51                   ` Bart Schaefer
2015-03-05 10:06                     ` Peter Stephenson
2015-03-02  8:54         ` Bart Schaefer
2015-03-02 10:31           ` Vincent Lefevre [this message]
2015-03-02 16:31             ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-02 16:49             ` Bart Schaefer
2015-03-02 17:38               ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-02 18:51                 ` Bart Schaefer
2015-03-04  8:55               ` Vincent Lefevre
2015-03-04 17:12                 ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-06  4:59                   ` Bart Schaefer
2015-03-06 16:10                     ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-06 20:23                       ` Lawrence Velázquez
2015-03-06 21:25                         ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-06 16:32                     ` Vincent Lefevre
2015-03-06 17:43                       ` Bart Schaefer
2015-03-06 21:01                         ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-09 11:26                         ` Vincent Lefevre

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