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From: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net>
To: zsh-users@zsh.org
Subject: Re: grammar triviality with '&&'
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 11:46:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150302104619.GC6869@xvii.vinc17.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABx2=D8efL3X2tfB+_+VweY2yye6EhaMNbJa3b3jJeVMp=7gaQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 2015-03-01 19:53:28 -0800, Kurtis Rader wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> wrote:
> 
> > However "&& [ -e file2 ]" could constitute a list too. There is
> > currently a parse error, but zsh could have an extension to accept
> > it as being equivalent to: "[[ $? -eq 0 ]] && [ -e file2 ]". Would
> > there be anything wrong with such an extension?
> >
> > Similarly, "|| X" could be regarded as equivalent to
> > "[[ $? -ne 0 ]] || X" by zsh.
> >
> 
> How often would such a feature be useful? Very infrequently in my opinion.

I'm not so sure. It's probably useless in a script (except for
the style as in the original post, but this may not be a good
idea to use such a feature here). But I can see an interesting
use in an interactive shell when using the history. For instance,
one may want to run 3 (long) commands from time to time, by using
the history and accept-line-and-down-history:

cmd1
cmd2
cmd3

Now, assume that as soon as some command fails, you don't want
to execute the following ones, but you still want to have the
3 commands in the history when invoking the latest cmd1 by a
history search (something I often do). Currently, the only way
to do that is, AFAIK:

cmd1
[[ $? -eq 0 ]] && cmd2
[[ $? -eq 0 ]] && cmd3

But having

cmd1
&& cmd2
&& cmd3

could be nicer (I would also like the fact that one can easier see
that these 3 commands are related).

Of course, one could also do:

  cmd1 && cmd2 && cmd3

but if the commands produce output, one may prefer to run them
separately to analyze the output first (which is the main goal
of interactive use vs writing a script).

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-03-02 10:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-01 16:07 Ray Andrews
2015-03-01 16:43 ` ZyX
2015-03-01 17:01   ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-01 18:48     ` Bart Schaefer
2015-03-01 19:00       ` ZyX
2015-03-01 19:16       ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-01 20:48         ` ZyX
2015-03-01 18:49     ` Lawrence Velázquez
2015-03-02  2:27       ` Vincent Lefevre
2015-03-02  3:12         ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-02  5:22           ` Lawrence Velázquez
2015-03-02  3:53         ` Kurtis Rader
2015-03-02  4:18           ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-02  5:22             ` Kurtis Rader
2015-03-02 16:17               ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-02 18:52                 ` Kurtis Rader
2015-03-02 19:03                   ` ZyX
2015-03-02 20:16                     ` Kurtis Rader
2015-03-03  4:15                       ` ZyX
2015-03-03  4:43                         ` Kurtis Rader
2015-03-04 15:03                           ` Vincent Lefevre
2015-03-04 19:07                           ` ZyX
2015-03-02 19:25                   ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-02 10:46           ` Vincent Lefevre [this message]
2015-03-02 11:06             ` Peter Stephenson
2015-03-02 19:19               ` Bart Schaefer
2015-03-04 14:47                 ` Vincent Lefevre
2015-03-05  1:51                   ` Bart Schaefer
2015-03-05 10:06                     ` Peter Stephenson
2015-03-02  8:54         ` Bart Schaefer
2015-03-02 10:31           ` Vincent Lefevre
2015-03-02 16:31             ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-02 16:49             ` Bart Schaefer
2015-03-02 17:38               ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-02 18:51                 ` Bart Schaefer
2015-03-04  8:55               ` Vincent Lefevre
2015-03-04 17:12                 ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-06  4:59                   ` Bart Schaefer
2015-03-06 16:10                     ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-06 20:23                       ` Lawrence Velázquez
2015-03-06 21:25                         ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-06 16:32                     ` Vincent Lefevre
2015-03-06 17:43                       ` Bart Schaefer
2015-03-06 21:01                         ` Ray Andrews
2015-03-09 11:26                         ` Vincent Lefevre

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