From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22304 invoked by alias); 6 Sep 2015 19:37:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Users List List-Post: List-Help: X-Seq: 20528 Received: (qmail 4846 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2015 19:37:46 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FAKE_REPLY_C autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 21:37:43 +0200 From: Axel Beckert To: zsh-users@zsh.org Subject: Re: zsh 5.1 released [user] Message-ID: <20150906193743.GG3721@sym.noone.org> Mail-Followup-To: zsh-users@zsh.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <55EC72F1.20702@eastlink.ca> <55EC7426.3050305@eastlink.ca> X-Operating-System: Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 X-Machine: sym2 x86_64 X-Editor: GNU Emacs 23.4.1 Face: 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 Organization: DeuxChevaux.org -- The =?iso-8859-1?Q?Citr?= =?iso-8859-1?B?b+tu?= 2CV Database User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Hi Ray, On Sun, Sep 06, 2015 at 10:08:01AM -0700, Ray Andrews wrote: > Thanks Axel, part of my worries is that some of this is from Debian > and some via manual install, just as you say. I wonder how much > overlap there is, If you haven't passed any specific --prefix or so to your ./configure call, they should not overlap. At least I never noticed any place where they do. (./configure by default installs to /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/etc), debian packages to /usr/bin, /etc and in case of zsh also /bin.) > If I uninstall zsh completely, as far as apt is concerned, and then > install the manual package, will things be done cleanly? I assume so, yes. (But I also assume it would be safe with the zsh package from Debian installed. :-) On Sun, Sep 06, 2015 at 10:13:10AM -0700, Ray Andrews wrote: > On 09/06/2015 09:57 AM, Axel Beckert wrote: > > zsh 5.1 is available in Debian Unstable as 5.1-1 currently. If you > > have unstable in your sources.list, you can install it directly > > via apt. > > That sounds like a good idea. I track testing tho. Can I force > 5.1-1 as a one-time exception? Yes, but it involves /etc/apt/preferences fiddling to lower unstable's pin priority. (And you need to add a "unstable" deb-line to your sources.list of course.) I use the following in /etc/apt/preferences on my systems running Testing: Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 300 > Or I wonder if I should stick to manual install. Can't decide that for you, especially because I'm surely biased as Debian' zsh package maintainer. ;-) If you uninstall the zsh debian package, make sure, /usr/local/bin/zsh* is mentioned in your /etc/shells file and /etc/passwd contains a still installed zsh for your user. Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News | abe@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.nonhtmlmail.org/campaign.html | abe@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://abe.noone.org/ (Web)