From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3294 invoked by alias); 10 Dec 2016 00:17:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Users List List-Post: List-Help: X-Seq: 22176 Received: (qmail 536 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2016 00:17:51 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com by f.primenet.com.au (envelope-from , uid 7791) with qmail-scanner-2.11 (clamdscan: 0.99.2/21882. spamassassin: 3.4.1. Clear:RC:0(66.111.4.28):SA:0(-0.7/5.0):. Processed in 2.022087 secs); 10 Dec 2016 00:17:51 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Envelope-From: d.s@daniel.shahaf.name X-Qmail-Scanner-Mime-Attachments: | X-Qmail-Scanner-Zip-Files: | Received-SPF: none (ns1.primenet.com.au: domain at daniel.shahaf.name does not designate permitted sender hosts) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= daniel.shahaf.name; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=GI57N4FayGnyfdD ghwulZDdzDS0=; b=VD11JA5tXtAWeHHIRxFxH1OcG/Bp9DcX8JwYYbE/1MbltL/ XKjdOgTKguA8ZTtO5kS8rAcMQtXOK5oetqPiPn/C/3l6sE2S5FrkjMxW5yXhzIZj kF4uumHTS3FBgOJovzV3J6gbF4hmKo8vQ5EwfUSqpjMggu0Y2lxvMKORaKQ4= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-sender :x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=GI57N4FayGnyfd DghwulZDdzDS0=; b=aTaGfOHZMOK0NRsQGMpJYW8x/CncwEYUt/MbYbCjVW99ND OpXKyWVx2hC4AkcUI+dM67HpOTnc4phbiJBUDH86yT6oJTTS+a1m2Xnz0pUI6rT3 SWiaX1J/bUghDWvP8ghKV23boxQ5HtDq1j2/5g+X8y16GcBOP/f+dzoW6/ELQ= X-ME-Sender: X-Sasl-enc: wZpC81aAAoXMAmnjS5KKMDZ4HAWCE6/SM5mo1YThAPQP 1481329063 Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2016 00:14:53 +0000 From: Daniel Shahaf To: Ray Andrews Cc: zsh-users@zsh.org Subject: Re: off topic Message-ID: <20161210001453.GA17641@fujitsu.shahaf.local2> References: <20161209122958.GD19559@256bit.org> <57127.1481294647@hydra.kiddle.eu> <584AC8AC.9050406@eastlink.ca> <62522.1481300922@hydra.kiddle.eu> <584AEDBF.2050402__19991.0537027337$1481307418$gmane$org@eastlink.ca> <20161209192406.GA27532@fujitsu.shahaf.local2> <584B1325.1010907__10266.7204490446$1481316980$gmane$org@eastlink.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <584B1325.1010907__10266.7204490446$1481316980$gmane$org@eastlink.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Ray Andrews wrote on Fri, Dec 09, 2016 at 12:25:09 -0800: > On 12/09/2016 11:24 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > >Actually, I think that already exists, in a way: > > Nuts, I've forgotten most of my own experience, but I do remember that > somewhat -- IIRC it was a sort of 'close but no cigar' sort of thing -- you > had to know what you were doing to use it, and of course the whole idea is > that at that point the newbie has no idea. Seems to me that what I wanted > was a sort of simple '1, 2, 3' set of choices for 'minimal setup > (masochistic)', 'normal setup (sane)', and 'lots of bells and whistles setup > (rococo)' with a friendly reminder that one can always rerun 'xxx' to change > to something else if one wants to experiment. I remember being terrified of > the installer, now that I recall. You may have missed my point. That option which I quoted is offered by the very first zsh-newuser-install prompt (NOT by a submenu), and is NOT offered by any further prompts, either. Therefore the user experience, if choosing this option, is very different to the "browse through submenus" experience that zsh-newuser-install also offers. Cheers, Daniel