From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17047 invoked by alias); 12 Dec 2016 13:20:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Users List List-Post: List-Help: X-Seq: 22200 Received: (qmail 18320 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2016 13:20:26 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics: from ioooi.vinc17.net by f.primenet.com.au (envelope-from , uid 7791) with qmail-scanner-2.11 (clamdscan: 0.99.2/21882. spamassassin: 3.4.1. Clear:RC:0(92.243.22.117):SA:0(-3.0/5.0):. Processed in 1.375321 secs); 12 Dec 2016 13:20:26 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Envelope-From: vincent@vinc17.net X-Qmail-Scanner-Mime-Attachments: | X-Qmail-Scanner-Zip-Files: | Received-SPF: none (ns1.primenet.com.au: domain at vinc17.net does not designate permitted sender hosts) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 14:11:48 +0100 From: Vincent Lefevre To: zsh-users@zsh.org Subject: Re: off topic Message-ID: <20161212131148.GA31884@zira.vinc17.org> Mail-Followup-To: zsh-users@zsh.org References: <20161209122958.GD19559@256bit.org> <57127.1481294647@hydra.kiddle.eu> <584AC8AC.9050406@eastlink.ca> <62522.1481300922@hydra.kiddle.eu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <62522.1481300922@hydra.kiddle.eu> X-Mailer-Info: https://www.vinc17.net/mutt/ User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.1-6878-vl-r94147 (2016-11-29) On 2016-12-09 17:28:42 +0100, Oliver Kiddle wrote: > Ray Andrews wrote: > > Ignore this as appropriate gentlemen, but for anyone who feels like > > answering, what is the culture vis. oh-my-zsh? I get a vague feeling > > that the members of this list view is as something strange and alien or > > even heretical. It seems to be something 'else' -- oh-my-zsh users > > It hasn't really been discussed so I can only give my own perspective. > > They've done a great job of promoting zsh and making some of the nicer > features available to people who don't want to work out how to configure > them. Those are perhaps areas where we've been weak. > > If someone posts here with a problem, it can make it a lot harder to > determine the cause. It means they have a complex setup which they don't > understand themself and some combination of plugins could be interacting > in odd ways. So to some extent it is something 'else' but that something > else is still a layer on top of zsh so not removed from us. This is not specific to oh-my-zsh, but potentially to anyone who has an advanced setup. Remember the random crashes I had with "configure" completions. -- Vincent Lefèvre - Web: 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)