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charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210930234612.GA21179@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:nIE1I96i8wv994EVgepqa2dBEEegKFA9F0LoW9gHcWyCDtHoXLF /yJMFocgDEo1J5HQCWhtTOvNenwK4XZ4EGDj5BbExpb5SiMGACJEjY5LDi3kIPGEN+DX0i1 gOLd5fQqcViQd+4VQmdL9D2/7g2MYiEU5MmJPdVJxs73824paV/SboCsDzL3c8hSq0Jug2U 8bpS12CDBgKCZ6CzV/b3Q== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:H0Q940CVuL0=:58HhQvq7av+P7typbdgJpp L3KoTczQcYakmYwx9B6XX9i/F24vGjOnENL9Xdmotl4hJJEQRz9Xv2XIQnr4I1Ut1/HUuCz6t rqP2Fuz6uiU1HDGcGXRoZsW+Ci+isParFOHsfUVv1OIlK4vGGuGOm/FumPxaslcs4Af6fBlaX xCy9D4JmRDsd9Ai/9wet4LWw6tKbu9xJ9vkEPz6AYd1Tg5m6MG14hMn6qj1SPUBXWibLYqar4 VqbEv9Zh2JbWrf087vfX8/qnqefJxbWpXJvQZYSMWISKelpwO6z1KXxEAKMLYgLtb7eKfPaeW svJq6bJt/1e1wUU4J8brk/LXEgLuGV+S87Vbz1aM0vW7trfJSe+BA4F4fRey6gXY+iVDrrY+h t71cWqiBt5CxIz4c0LP3Dz1TiRe3PvjFXSHS5iCyrFWpNYASTYiMFQnwb0lDDpzq1LrX7h/lD v72k24cDpK0CRxNBW677dyUj1wh/vvSxZz9bAoMg4dDfOVmhPdfCwLE2uiF6PhiI7qtAiIo+t OhpK8W7Dk8l0vZXD3uQ6fNOvi5vQv1TBsUKUPpyYGz2ANzk/VslqpFVl87v4hhCuQOBQXhtZZ OVKCvM1h9LrPLyRFNtUgJhKamrcGzNEjTiaNNxYAuAtK2/K/Hnxn2yQIyiNxUKvYD0a+5xXlx kG2kmnCR1XlP6pZU1MzVmVtxZSo4P0O8SYxVNGRSFmoUJY0J8ftoEd/owtt5xzrNzJrxhHe2Q aAYiFqFlW8MumwrE/ZYqJNiSNaaxXKxGZaNcmG79CBRBiu+7h+6lLTIU5HhjuVKP4zVj5Ocfv VPkhESwEY6W3VKqaAIhSS8AYsNuzCPRFz2izJyFq7hwfpunjmOTv07u2BerkINRkXVCwkDTbo MpQ/hliN6+PtsDb9RWj5YlP26HtUpYWEFP4HAU6l8KWsV86doBGPXl/w72nyVsgr5+++R1+3m 2jgl0CQ8cPP9jw5t/doF9adM4hCZ9wLffXUOX2mc8RMHjUFGyr+/6xCYauuQdp7x/ZHzlMQFW OwGYFCLLvarIGOyCdHQve9e3o2/hu2KJXf0NjMgIhry/nSQI+Y3A2fopHl0AgNe+IjcUs8s4E v/SkMCTDwud+oo= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Seq: 27195 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-users@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-users-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-users-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: On Fri, Oct 01, 2021 at 12:46:12AM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > On the other hand I wonder what kind of command would generate an > awful lot of output quickly which can still be overlooked manually > in less. In the initial message you mentioned long running find commands. A quick check on my Devuan system shows: $ find / | wc 404059 465820 24085840 So, ~24 MB output from ~400.000 paths on a desktop system with relatively few installed packets. Make that twice as much on a fancy, super flashy desktop. Maybe add network filesystems. Does an upper bound of about 100 MB temporary disk space really matter? It's hard to imagine a system where 100 MB disk space are too much, but 100 MB memory are not. Ciao Dominik ^_^ ^_^ =2D- Dominik Vogt