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Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.7.0 Subject: Re: Most minimal configuration challenge Content-language: en-US To: zsh-users@zsh.org References: <0e8bc96d-17a7-4be2-afab-7a0fd827866f@www.fastmail.com> <5141de6b-dbee-4d4b-3b74-d95a671fa04e@luffy.cx> <33d0bd1a-4da7-416d-a92a-04ceb07d1107@www.fastmail.com> <1c9b6072-26e7-467e-b8cc-7d44f15eaf1b@www.fastmail.com> <9116efd4-7c88-4ea3-9601-9c522236fee7@www.fastmail.com> <20220831092831.GA992100@zira.vinc17.org> <2a3b5ac0-f4f8-4c14-835a-c3d31db6d4fb@www.fastmail.com> From: Ray Andrews In-reply-to: Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Seq: 28035 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-users@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-users-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-users-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: On 2022-09-01 18:49, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > The clueless students are an essential part of the equation. When I'm critiquing a document I deliberately become dumb.  Even if I get it, if I think it could have been explained better I'll act as tho I don't get it. > > People who are not constantly being subject to criticism often think > it's something negative, but it isn't, it's just an opportunity to try > something better. In the computer world some expert writes the doc and you take it or you leave it. In the  world of writers, they get together in groups and *savage* each other's work, they tear each other to shreds if they think something is not written perfectly.  Then a style editor rips thru it.  Then a copy editor rips it to bits one more time.  Then the publisher cuts out half of it and makes you rewrite the other half. > > Ultimately the people who should judge prose meant for newcomers, are > newcomers. If they say it isn't clear, then it isn't clear. That's exactly it.