From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from primenet.com.au (ns1.primenet.com.au [203.24.36.2]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id c4172c30 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2019 14:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19898 invoked by alias); 9 Oct 2019 14:08:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Users List List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: X-Seq: 24337 Received: (qmail 24580 invoked by uid 1010); 9 Oct 2019 14:08:03 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics: from mta02.eastlink.ca by f.primenet.com.au (envelope-from , uid 7791) with qmail-scanner-2.11 (clamdscan: 0.101.2/25594. spamassassin: 3.4.2. Clear:RC:0(24.224.136.13):SA:0(-2.6/5.0):. Processed in 2.684326 secs); 09 Oct 2019 14:08:03 -0000 X-Envelope-From: rayandrews@eastlink.ca X-Qmail-Scanner-Mime-Attachments: | X-Qmail-Scanner-Zip-Files: | Received-SPF: pass (ns1.primenet.com.au: SPF record at _spf.eastlink.ca designates 24.224.136.13 as permitted sender) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=aMmOVo1m c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=zv49KfEsxEDzuN5AGO7r0Q==:117 a=zv49KfEsxEDzuN5AGO7r0Q==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=BCkxVMUPJt6HPZeMjuoA:9 a=yF7VYaSsN0krYmNT:21 a=rX7YiMvomYjJvmyS:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-Vade-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedriedugdeglecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfgtefuvffnkffpmfdpqfgfvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucenucfjughrpefuvfhfhffkffgfgggjtgfgsehtkeertddtfeejnecuhfhrohhmpeftrgihucetnhgurhgvfihsuceorhgrhigrnhgurhgvfihssegvrghsthhlihhnkhdrtggrqeenucfkphepvdegrddvtdejrdeltddrudelgeenucfrrghrrghmpehinhgvthepvdegrddvtdejrdeltddrudelgedphhgvlhhopegludelvddrudeikedrtddrfegnpdhmrghilhhfrhhomheprhgrhigrnhgurhgvfihssegvrghsthhlihhnkhdrtggrpdhrtghpthhtohepiihshhdquhhsvghrshesiihshhdrohhrghenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-Vade-Score: 0 X-Vade-State: 0 X-EL-IP-NOAUTH: 24.207.90.194 Subject: Re: Feature request: a new warning option To: zsh-users@zsh.org References: <1570627441.5764.11.camel@samsung.com> From: Ray Andrews Message-id: <2e1cbea2-ef25-3e36-2a3a-34cf4decb6c6@eastlink.ca> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2019 07:07:23 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 MIME-version: 1.0 In-reply-to: Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Content-language: en-CA On 2019-10-09 6:41 a.m., Sebastian Gniazdowski wrote: > but I'm seeing your point. This is like commenting or not the code – I > was for a long long time pro-commenting, to just drop it recently, > actually finding pleasure in writing a condensed, I could agree – > (less /un)readable code. > Just a comment from the unwashed: Maybe I'm the only one, but it has always seemed to me that in the entire cycle of developing software, the time spent entering keystrokes is a tiny fraction.  You save a few seconds typing a line, but come back to it a while later and you spend hours figuring out your own code.  Zsh has incredibly compact syntax already, and if I don't comment every line, since I can go months without writing anything, when I come back, I've forgotten the syntax and must refer to my comments.  They say that with Perl, every keystroke needs a sentence of comment to understand it.  My notion of the ideal language would be quite verbose and self-explanatory.  IMHO the last thing zsh needs is more terse syntax.  Just my two cents.