From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from primenet.com.au (ns1.primenet.com.au [203.24.36.2]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 2ec5ee9d for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2019 18:05:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 24148 invoked by alias); 19 Sep 2019 18:05:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Users List List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: X-Seq: 24268 Received: (qmail 9210 invoked by uid 1010); 19 Sep 2019 18:05:35 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com by f.primenet.com.au (envelope-from , uid 7791) with qmail-scanner-2.11 (clamdscan: 0.101.2/25573. spamassassin: 3.4.2. Clear:RC:0(66.111.4.28):SA:0(-2.6/5.0):. Processed in 4.696212 secs); 19 Sep 2019 18:05:35 -0000 X-Envelope-From: d.s@daniel.shahaf.name X-Qmail-Scanner-Mime-Attachments: | X-Qmail-Scanner-Zip-Files: | Received-SPF: none (ns1.primenet.com.au: domain at daniel.shahaf.name does not designate permitted sender hosts) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= daniel.shahaf.name; h=mime-version:message-id:in-reply-to :references:date:from:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=fm1; bh=ipv0i8WLk0AQqHrDGqqnP5hkxR t6aMN8yiUBVJBp4gA=; b=sXM/gkg83NDv8ykd7jitOC9PJVW39vdAwA3S18Vdvu CoPB4p4RQNQkvLWCZ63OKldH2TxZeOqE7WMAZobbd4wJCS8QSCVEyqwGvY4q+195 +qA4ScGRkyluCCw0DPWNFLH9rgDu9ZUJQlzveI2PYjRsuaeeRPTra3hS5SMEGdjP 0P/OavVf3ctiUt+6J/aKDcLoF4/hrAX9NyRnGUzFWvRrcx45ImUJyopW3+6inz4z gw5x1vRUwM+uGKBW+gpsHZ91y2/l25nu8txnJv9bogDppA4ff+YgZEBgDeYp2L2f 596efUEcEmYv/7YfI06NydRNxM2LAsB7zMoyhEWIm+1w== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=ipv0i8WLk0AQqHrDGqqnP5hkxRt6aMN8yiUBVJBp4 gA=; b=k9HNNnD3duB30McFNN7gNqMlc3sNFJs9iuWsb48QFYcU5yGIXQjh9yj1v sq2x2g9/B4DG9pRt2KwiU1RHcEq1Br9Ap2EaTQn2sRz/JEQRYFupnVuQ9jQdrFqE lu9P5U/zVfm9ppRKdYjZXezPnLJALFGJZXyomadrSxWbbtqXGEhu56aUxorH2EAD Dit6Owz6C3uGCb0R18ovkMc5WztiRb9pp4biLJhVhJBi9Lg+YIT/y6HhBE7klA5A sXtDxuyHm215FH9ty9V7PDBH5E4sBY3cqTb4xS2TqbujJzD4qrMf0fC9Y6fmHQIY QFh1IR8Nyis+TRRg724YvMRFlphHA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedrvddtgdduvddvucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepofgfggfkjghffffhvffutgfgsehtqhertderreejnecuhfhrohhmpedfffgr nhhivghlucfuhhgrhhgrfhdfuceougdrshesuggrnhhivghlrdhshhgrhhgrfhdrnhgrmh gvqeenucffohhmrghinhepfihikhhiphgvughirgdrohhrghdpohhpvghnshhouhhrtggv rdgtohhmnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpegurdhssegurghnihgvlhdrshhhrg hhrghfrdhnrghmvgenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt X-ME-Proxy: X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.1.7-238-g170a812-fmstable-20190913v1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3460eeb5-09e1-48fb-8168-5da417fd744b@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: <695ca696-d705-623e-47a3-22f936ffa10e@eastlink.ca> References: <7a681972-e690-a800-306f-182cd686030d@inlv.org> <5349aa4a-299f-76dd-01a1-a4e9e99d7191@eastlink.ca> <740d5b56-50df-4eb7-afa7-dc0d73000817@www.fastmail.com> <695ca696-d705-623e-47a3-22f936ffa10e@eastlink.ca> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 18:04:26 +0000 From: "Daniel Shahaf" To: "Ray Andrews" , zsh-users@zsh.org Subject: Re: Opensource.com Zsh article Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ray Andrews wrote on Thu, 19 Sep 2019 17:32 +00:00: > On 2019-09-19 9:08 a.m., Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > > > Anyone can send patches. If someone from Apple starts sending many > > good patches, they'll get commit access in the ordinary way. > > > > Taking over the project would require the consent of the existing > > maintainers. >=20 > Yeah that's the point. So our folks keep the reins. But I trust this= =20 > is a matter of etiquette? How could consent really be enforced? What's your attacker model? I.e., what do you fear Mallory=C2=B9 might = do without our consent, that we need to prepare to counter? Cheers, Daniel =C2=B9 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_and_Bob#Cast_of_characters