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From: Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca>
To: zsh-users@zsh.org
Subject: Re: path PATH
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 08:21:18 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3885c637-c56f-2bb7-9a89-02009254ed75@eastlink.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN=4vMrj2iuWEthPOYj+TuZQW4MofH8DS9W50NO33xFa8+ks1A@mail.gmail.com>


On 2023-01-21 07:25, Roman Perepelitsa wrote:
> PATH isn't special. Here:

I understand.  One could create other variables that show as 'export -T 
...' but this is not actually done in the raw shell, so PATH is unique 
even if not 'special' as you use the word.  However it is 'special' in 
that 'typeset -p PATH' does not show it's accurate value.  I suspect 
that, as Lawrence said, it's because PATH is an internally created 
modification of path, it's a scalar created from an array.  So FOO is 
all fine, but PATH has a certain specialness -- no other tied parameter 
has one 'version' different from the other.  This might be unfixable in 
as much as 'typeset -p' displays information via a sort of re-creation 
(as Bart explained a few months ago) -- which seems very strange to me 
but what do I know?  IOW typeset *itself* might not even 'know' that 
PATH != path, all it knows is that the two are tied and that PATH points 
to path.  It does not know that PATH is then modified. Stalemate.  It 
bugs me but thereyago.




  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-21 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-01-20 21:57 Ray Andrews
2023-01-20 22:20 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-21  2:23   ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-21  6:11     ` Lawrence Velázquez
2023-01-21 15:18       ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-21 15:25         ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-21 16:21           ` Ray Andrews [this message]
2023-01-21 16:38             ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-21 16:54               ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-21 17:01                 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-21 18:53                   ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-21 19:09                     ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-21 20:50                       ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-21 21:11                         ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-21 20:19                     ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-21 20:26                       ` env arrays (was: Re: path PATH) zeurkous
2023-01-22 17:28                         ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-21 21:03                       ` path PATH Ray Andrews
2023-01-21 21:52                         ` Lawrence Velázquez
2023-01-22  0:42                           ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-22 12:29                             ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-22 14:17                               ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-22 16:15                                 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-22 17:23                                   ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-22 19:20                               ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-22 19:31                                 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-22 19:51                                   ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-22 19:56                                     ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-22 20:03                                       ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-22 21:56                                         ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-22 22:02                                           ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-22 22:27                                             ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-22 23:03                                           ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-22 20:12                                       ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-22 21:11                                         ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-22 22:44                                           ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-22 23:35                                             ` Lawrence Velázquez
2023-01-22 23:58                                               ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-23  0:49                                                 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2023-01-23  1:33                                                   ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-23  1:49                                                     ` Lawrence Velázquez
2023-01-23  1:11                                             ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-23  1:56                                               ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-23  2:59                                                 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2023-01-23  3:47                                                   ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-23 10:37                                             ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-23 15:28                                               ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-23 15:40                                                 ` zeurkous
2023-01-23 16:02                                                   ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-23 16:25                                                     ` zeurkous
2023-01-23 16:26                                               ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-24 20:00                                     ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-24 20:42                                       ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-24 20:50                                         ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-24 20:54                                         ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-24 23:28                                     ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-24 23:42                                       ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-25  0:14                                         ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-25 16:38                                           ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-25 16:43                                             ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-25 16:56                                               ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-25 17:02                                                 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-25 17:34                                                   ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-25 17:37                                                     ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-25 18:26                                                       ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-25 18:34                                                         ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-25 19:00                                                           ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-26  2:13                                                           ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-26  2:37                                                             ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-26  4:27                                                               ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-26 20:26                                                                 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-26 20:29                                                                   ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-26 20:59                                                                     ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-26 21:17                                                                       ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-26 21:41                                                                       ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-26 21:44                                                                         ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-26 22:36                                                                           ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-26 22:43                                                                             ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-27  0:19                                                                               ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-27  3:36                                                                                 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-27 17:51                                                                                 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-27 20:45                                                                                   ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-27 21:09                                                                                     ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-27 23:45                                                                                       ` scowles
2023-01-28  0:12                                                                                         ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-28  3:47                                                                                           ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-28 16:42                                                                                             ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-28 22:51                                                                                               ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-29  2:30                                                                                                 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-29  3:03                                                                                                   ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-29  3:44                                                                                                     ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-29  4:35                                                                                                       ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-29 15:54                                                                                                         ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-29 21:21                                                                                                           ` Lawrence Velázquez
2023-01-29 22:33                                                                                                             ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-29 22:42                                                                                                               ` Lawrence Velázquez
2023-01-30  0:42                                                                                                                 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-30  0:46                                                                                                                   ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-30  4:41                                                                                                                 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-30  5:16                                                                                                                   ` Lawrence Velázquez
2023-01-30  6:55                                                                                                                     ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-30 14:40                                                                                                                   ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-30 14:55                                                                                                                     ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-30 14:56                                                                                                                     ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-30 15:56                                                                                                                       ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-30 16:09                                                                                                                         ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-30 16:24                                                                                                                           ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-30 16:34                                                                                                                             ` Roman Perepelitsa
2023-01-30 23:05                                                                                                                           ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-30 17:50                                                                                                                         ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-31  0:42                                                                                                                           ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-26 22:18                                                                         ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-25 22:18                                                   ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-25 23:10                                                     ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-25 23:19                                                       ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-26  0:55                                                         ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-22 19:52                                 ` Ray Andrews
2023-01-21 16:48             ` Bart Schaefer
2023-01-21  5:47 ` Lawrence Velázquez

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