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boundary="------------wunZLeO4AVGH0iiCAGUkUyA9" Message-id: <3cc19e86-e953-4e2f-9e57-30ff84f15fdf@eastlink.ca> Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 07:37:11 -0700 MIME-version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: triviality regarding $# counts To: zsh-users@zsh.org References: <97793422-1543-4ba6-b52b-ff93eba03ab1@eastlink.ca> <7ba17739-6024-439b-a4a7-dd88fddfa2e4@eastlink.ca> <7333cf23-1fe7-4b3d-a7c1-f07697c5f062@eastlink.ca> <1e53a3f7-9bdb-45ae-81c7-7d0ec1a6a541@app.fastmail.com> Content-language: en-US From: Ray Andrews In-reply-to: <1e53a3f7-9bdb-45ae-81c7-7d0ec1a6a541@app.fastmail.com> X-Seq: 29802 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-users@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-users-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-users-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: , List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------wunZLeO4AVGH0iiCAGUkUyA9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 2024-04-12 20:25, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: > We all understand that it can be difficult to boil a problem down > to a tractable, self-contained example. But the alternative you've > chosen -- presenting baffling examples without necessary context, > describing your debugging attempts in vague terms without concrete > details, and inventing deeply bogus theories instead of consulting > the documentation first -- is making it difficult for us to help. On the contrary, your help has been most effective.  I wouldn't know how to expand the context without expanding it 'all the way out' and that's more context than you want, trust me.  And sorry about the deeply bogus theories, I know they're deeply bogus but I'm a pattern seeking animal and I'll attempt to model what I think is going on knowing full well that I'm usually wrong. Bart: > I have no idea where you think dollar signs are coming from ... unless possibly because "typeset -p" will output array elements using $'...' quoting if there are certain non-printable characters in the element? I dunno. I've lost the example that I saved. Never mind, I'll keep an eye on it, and figure out next time. Red herring for now. It's a bit confusing looking into typeset -p output. All this 'splitting' stuff is not simple. For now everything works and I'm quite sure it's a bit more orthodox. --------------wunZLeO4AVGH0iiCAGUkUyA9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On 2024-04-12 20:25, Lawrence Velázquez wrote:
We all understand that it can be difficult to boil a problem down 
to a tractable, self-contained example.  But the alternative you've
chosen -- presenting baffling examples without necessary context,
describing your debugging attempts in vague terms without concrete
details, and inventing deeply bogus theories instead of consulting
the documentation first -- is making it difficult for us to help.
On the contrary, your help has been most effective.  I wouldn't know how to expand the context without expanding it 'all the way out' and that's more context than you want, trust me.  And sorry about the deeply bogus theories, I know they're deeply bogus but I'm a pattern seeking animal and I'll attempt to model what I think is going on knowing full well that I'm usually wrong. 

Bart:
>  I have no idea where you think dollar signs are
coming from ... unless possibly because "typeset -p" will output array
elements using $'...' quoting if there are certain non-printable
characters in the element?



I dunno.  I've lost the example that I saved. Never mind, I'll keep an eye on it, and figure out next time. Red herring for now.  It's a bit confusing looking into typeset -p output. All this 'splitting' stuff is not simple. For now everything works and I'm quite sure it's a bit more orthodox.

   


  


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