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From: "Lawrence Velázquez" <vq@larryv.me>
To: Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca>
Cc: zsh-users@zsh.org
Subject: Re: ${var:1:1:=y}
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 19:18:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <412544FB-49A2-43AA-BC76-DC1AF1AA71BE@larryv.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54D155C8.4080600@eastlink.ca>

On Feb 3, 2015, at 6:12 PM, Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca> wrote:

> We can of course do this:
> 
>    variable=${var:=xy}
> 
> I'm wanting the naive expansion of that syntax to do this:
> 
>    variable=${var:1:1:=y}
> 
> ... but it doesn't work. Can something like that be done?

(This is admittedly a non-answer, as I don't know whether there's a solution that's as succinct as you'd like.)

I would find that syntax (or something like it) very ambiguous. What would be assigned "y" in this case — `var`, or the slice of `var` that you were testing? Neither is obvious.


> At the moment I'm doing this:
> 
>    variable=${var:1:1}
>    [ -n "$variable" ] || variable=y
> 
> ... which is perfectly fine, but the above pseudosyntax would be elegant if it could be made workable.

Wouldn't testing the length of `variable` express your intent better?


> And I found something that puzzles me:
> 
> 
>   test ()
>   {
>      echo $1
>      echo ${1:0:1}
>      /bin/echo ${1:0:1}
>      echo ${1:1:1}
>      echo ${1:0:1}${1:1:1}
>      echo ${1:1:1}${1:0:1}
>   }
> 
>   $ test -a
> 
>   -a
>   [nothing]
>   -
>   a
>   -a
>   a-
> 
> ... If I entered a valid switchofcourse I'd expect that to be eaten
> but a solitary dash? Bug?  /bin/echo behaves as I'd expect.

Test cases should focus on the questionable behavior by discarding irrelevant details. Your case boils down to this:

    % echo -

    % /bin/echo -
    -
    %


vq

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-04  0:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-03 23:12 ${var:1:1:=y} Ray Andrews
2015-02-04  0:18 ` Lawrence Velázquez [this message]
2015-02-04  0:39   ` ${var:1:1:=y} Ray Andrews
2015-02-04  1:30     ` ${var:1:1:=y} Lawrence Velázquez
2015-02-04  3:25       ` ${var:1:1:=y} Bart Schaefer
2015-02-04  3:44         ` ${var:1:1:=y} Eric Cook
2015-02-04 17:10           ` The "-" and "--" options (was Re: ${var:1:1:=y}) Bart Schaefer
2015-02-04 17:42             ` Ray Andrews
2015-02-04 23:47               ` Lawrence Velázquez
2015-02-05  1:31                 ` Ray Andrews
2015-02-05  1:52                   ` Kurtis Rader
2015-02-05  2:03                     ` Ray Andrews
2015-02-05  2:24               ` Bart Schaefer
2015-02-04 19:02             ` Peter Stephenson
2015-02-04 19:53               ` ZyX
2015-02-04  5:16         ` ${var:1:1:=y} Ray Andrews

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