From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16560 invoked by alias); 25 Jan 2017 05:47:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Users List List-Post: List-Help: X-Seq: 22425 Received: (qmail 20702 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2017 05:47:27 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics: from mta03.eastlink.ca by f.primenet.com.au (envelope-from , uid 7791) with qmail-scanner-2.11 (clamdscan: 0.99.2/21882. spamassassin: 3.4.1. Clear:RC:0(24.224.136.9):SA:0(-3.9/5.0):. Processed in 0.571168 secs); 25 Jan 2017 05:47:27 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RP_MATCHES_RCVD,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Envelope-From: rayandrews@eastlink.ca X-Qmail-Scanner-Mime-Attachments: | X-Qmail-Scanner-Zip-Files: | Received-SPF: pass (ns1.primenet.com.au: SPF record at _spf.eastlink.ca designates 24.224.136.9 as permitted sender) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=ZvqvEJzG c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=28Ntk8jg+Dho8ABWn/CRtA==:117 a=28Ntk8jg+Dho8ABWn/CRtA==:17 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=fLDzn3rP1jY8jQBANrQA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 X-EL-IP-NOAUTH: 24.207.16.108 Subject: Re: Avoiding the zshells intelligence...in one case To: zsh-users@zsh.org References: <20170122080153.GA5042@solfire> <213742a3-d208-973d-3b86-1ac29b9d96dd@eastlink.ca> <2f69cfec-46e2-1a93-101d-fb0579d0637f@gmx.com> <864415b1-bb85-8b61-1f2e-ae811802fafe@eastlink.ca> From: Ray Andrews Message-id: <5268a472-f5d0-9678-ab8f-44c2b0067163@eastlink.ca> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 21:47:23 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.6.0 MIME-version: 1.0 In-reply-to: Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 24/01/17 08:56 PM, Bart Schaefer wrote: > Probably we're back to the "different levels of quoting" thing here; > i.e., > even if you've successfully protected everything from interpretation by > the shell language parser, you can still encounter another interpretation > done by the command itself, such as backslashes within "print" and "echo". > > In nearly all cases those have a control of their own to force literal > use of arguments ("echo -E", "print -r", etc.). > Sure. If only one couldlearn this stuff other than the hard way. I'd sure like to have a conversation with myself of three years ago and tell me what I know now. I think back to expecting zsh to be something like C, now I understand that they couldn't be more different and why that is.