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Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.6.0 Subject: Re: path PATH Content-language: en-US To: zsh-users@zsh.org References: <0dc71450-d082-93da-52f8-d4e6b97199af@eastlink.ca> <378fcf6a-edb0-885b-3d08-9ebee33bb911@eastlink.ca> <3885c637-c56f-2bb7-9a89-02009254ed75@eastlink.ca> <3b93f68e-d090-15c0-c15e-a3d09d702f76@eastlink.ca> From: Ray Andrews In-reply-to: Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Seq: 28703 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-users@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-users-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-users-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: , List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: On 2023-01-21 11:09, Roman Perepelitsa wrote: > Is the number 42 "in fact" 8#52? Yes, it most certainly is -- in base 8, which is explicit. > I gotta say, in pretty much every thread where you asked a question > I'm left wondering whether you understood what I was saying. From my > point of view the answer is logical and in a sense obvious Ah, we'll that's the thing, one can misunderstand some basic premise which makes everything subsequent illogical.  Bart cleared this up by disabusing me of the idea that that a tie was just another name for exactly the same thing, and that *appears* to be the case.  It seemed so obviously the case that I didn't even ask the question.  But no!  a tie creates a scalar with the array elements joined by colons ... $PATH!  But since typeset -p, in every other situation, shows you the value of a parameter I'm wanting the same for PATH.  I'd use set -- which shows it accurately with the colons -- *but* I'd also like to see the type of the variable besides it's value  which pushes me back to typeset -p.  So, there's no easy answer.  I just hafta remember that PATH, like any other tied param, will be a scalar created from an array and sorry, it can't be displayed  like that by typeset -p.    Dunno, maybe I can hack something together but probably not worth it.  One might wish for an option to set that would include type as well as value.  No typeset -p 'recreation', just the information.  I sorta understand why typeset itself is not the vehicle for this since it's not by nature a 'viewer' but a 'creator'. Anyway I've wasted enough of you guy's time with this.