From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7903 invoked by alias); 18 Apr 2014 03:40:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Users List List-Post: List-Help: X-Seq: 18734 Received: (qmail 8872 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2014 03:40:18 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Xr3DZz19 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=P3K3l7HnQ2lHEG+FABZwvw==:117 a=P3K3l7HnQ2lHEG+FABZwvw==:17 a=4bV_df75LxsA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=-Hoi4zzMxz5EAvil5NwA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Message-id: <535097B1.4040107@eastlink.ca> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 20:10:41 -0700 From: Ray Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/24.3.0 MIME-version: 1.0 To: zsh-users@zsh.org Subject: Re: setopt interactivecomments References: <140416102727.ZM19090@torch.brasslantern.com> <534FE710.3020601@eastlink.ca> <140417123722.ZM22179@torch.brasslantern.com> <5350494F.6070003@eastlink.ca> <140417154117.ZM22891@torch.brasslantern.com> In-reply-to: <140417154117.ZM22891@torch.brasslantern.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 04/17/2014 03:41 PM, Bart Schaefer wrote: > In fact more often than not for me backspace works just fine in zsh but > is messed up in other programs like vim. That's not a shell problem, > it's a tty-driver problem. All I can say is that the first time I got Linux working, it didn't work (mind,g that would have been bash) and I'm almost positive that the first time I tried zsh it didn't work either. I could be wrong about the latter of course, and it's just a for-instance anyway. I do know that when I've been forced to run zsh without any .zshrc, it's pretty raw. I don't stand on details, just the principle of the thing. Anyway, since it seems there is some sort of config helper for newbies, that's good enough for me, I'm just sad I missed it. Dunno, maybe it could be more visible. I found the nucleus of my current .zshrc on the web somewhere. > Not sure where that's coming from either, because basic history motions > are on by default as well. If you're going to make straw men, at least > make them vaguely humanoid ... I still have nightmares about that first experience with the shell, and what I've said was certainly true back then. Maybe I'm just having flashbacks. If we're more user friendly out of the box than I'm remembering, then I withdraw all my comments. All I can say is that, on principle, good stuff should be 'on' by default, and if tcsh didn't have it 20 years ago that shouldn't be a big concern IMHO. I certainly don't mean to be contentious. Perhaps, just to air the laundry, there could be some sort of poll of the list as to who might like something or other made a default?