From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13574 invoked by alias); 25 Apr 2014 01:38:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Users List List-Post: List-Help: X-Seq: 18767 Received: (qmail 18802 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2014 01:37:44 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Xr3DZz19 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=n/WTZbh1FpPaMOeipeXWdg==:117 a=n/WTZbh1FpPaMOeipeXWdg==:17 a=4bV_df75LxsA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ED7Rbw5rZlX9vTMJ8nMA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Message-id: <5359BC7F.4070403@eastlink.ca> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 18:38:07 -0700 From: Ray Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/24.3.0 MIME-version: 1.0 To: zsh-users@zsh.org Subject: Re: zsh-newuser-install References: <140416102727.ZM19090@torch.brasslantern.com> <534FE710.3020601@eastlink.ca> <140417123722.ZM22179@torch.brasslantern.com> <20140423165024.1480528a@pws-pc.ntlworld.com> <535920E5.1090108@eastlink.ca> In-reply-to: Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 04/24/2014 09:02 AM, Yuri D'Elia wrote: > On 04/24/2014 04:34 PM, Ray Andrews wrote: > The problem is that it is, indeed, quite complicated. It's not exactly > what I would recommend to somebody that is starting from zero with zsh. Well, then I agree. At least myself, I stayed away from it when I saw how fancy it tried to be. > Debugging slow completion or any issue you have with it will > immediately be too hard for somebody who never tweaked zsh before, > because there's no single "item" you can search for in the manual > page. For instance, I severely dislike when completion tries to > outsmart me, or behaves in non-predictive ways. Right. The first thing software of any kind should be is predictable.