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From: Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca>
To: zsh-users@zsh.org
Subject: Re: autoload
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 15:12:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55FDDDDE.5000207@eastlink.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <150919142243.ZM23634@torch.brasslantern.com>

On 09/19/2015 02:22 PM, Bart Schaefer wrote:
> On Sep 19, 11:13am, Ray Andrews wrote:
> } Subject: Re: autoload
> }
> } I'm thinking about how the creation of a zwc file, and it's subsequent
> } use could be considered to be part of the same builtin.
>
> But you don't say
>
>      compiler -build something source/*
>      compiler -load something
>
> Rather, you build, and then you install, and then you run, and the way
> all shells are designed, you use $path to bridge the install + run steps.
Sure, it wasn't to be taken very seriously, I'm just thinking about the 
idea that there
could be a sort of symmetry between creating a .zwc and then loading 
one--you
could think of them as so related that the command name could be the 
same.  IOW
the creation of a .zwc presupposes subsequent use of it the same way 
that making
dinner supposes eating dinner.  Command recall would be easier ... but 
that's
never going to happen.  I guess the parallel would be 'zip' vs. 
'unzip'--we're glad
that the names are related.

> As I've pointed out, these are exactly the same as
>
>      zcompile /Functions/Functions.zwc /Functions/*
>      FPATH=/Functions/Functions.zwc autoload +X -w /Functions/Functions.zwc
>
> Although the better practice would be to do
>
>      zcompile /Functions.zwc /Functions/*
>      FPATH=/Functions.zwc autoload +X -w /Functions.zwc
But ... well, let me try it again, I may have busted something.
> } It's very relevant to what degree veterans like yourself use stuff.
> } I'd provisionally conclude that if you don't use it, then I don't
> } want it.
>
> As I tried to point out, I'm not a very typical user.  I would also
> never use Sebastian's navigation tools, or anything from oh-my-zsh;
> but that doesn't mean anyone else should avoid them.
No, OTOH in my judgment typicality is not of great value whereas decades of
experience is.  Not that I have the slightest hesitation in doing things 
my own
way, but I always want to know what the Old Masters think even if I 
choose to
differ ... until learning better.
>


  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-19 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-17 15:54 autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-17 17:34 ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-17 19:22   ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-17 20:40     ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-17 23:06       ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-17 23:20         ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-18  1:20           ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-18  4:04             ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-18  5:00               ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-18  5:52                 ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-18 15:49                   ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-18 16:52                     ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-18 18:29                       ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-18 19:02                         ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-18 22:57                           ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-19  0:14   ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-19 15:04     ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-19 16:29       ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-19 18:13         ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-19 21:22           ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-19 22:12             ` Ray Andrews [this message]
2015-09-20  5:53               ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-20 15:37                 ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-20 15:59                   ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-20  0:58             ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-20  5:41               ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-20 23:21                 ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-21  4:18                   ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-21 17:03                     ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-21 18:17                       ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-21 20:09                         ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-22  3:19                           ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-22 17:33                             ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-23  4:39                               ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-23 15:06                                 ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-29 23:16                             ` wheels within wheels Ray Andrews
2015-09-30  2:55                               ` Kurtis Rader
2015-09-30  3:24                                 ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-30  3:40                                 ` Bart Schaefer
2015-09-30  4:03                                   ` Mikael Magnusson
2015-09-30  4:15                                   ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-30  7:05                                     ` Bart Schaefer
2015-09-30 15:06                                       ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-30  8:01                                     ` ZyX
2015-09-30 15:18                                       ` Ray Andrews
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-09-08 12:32 Announce of Zsh Navigation Tools Sebastian Gniazdowski
2015-09-12 17:50 ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-12 19:41   ` ZyX
2015-09-12 21:03     ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-12 22:10       ` Bart Schaefer
2015-09-12 23:03         ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-12 23:43           ` Bart Schaefer
2015-09-14  2:14             ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-14  2:38               ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-14  3:34                 ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-14 20:21                   ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-15  2:48                     ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-15  3:48                       ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-15 16:18                         ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-16  4:09                         ` autoload Ray Andrews
2014-12-23 15:51 autoload Ray Andrews
2014-12-23 17:36 ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2014-12-23 18:19   ` autoload Ray Andrews

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