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From: Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca>
To: zsh-users@zsh.org
Subject: Re: autoload
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 16:21:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55FF3F7E.4060906@eastlink.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <150919224120.ZM4736@torch.brasslantern.com>

On 09/19/2015 10:41 PM, Bart Schaefer wrote:
> } -"zcompile ... (N-.:t)" ... or it barfs if there's a directory on the
> } same path. Fussy fussy.
>
> You *really* don't want that :t in there.

Yup.  It turns out that it was the regular versions of the functions 
that were being found.
> This is for all practical purposes impossible to do automatically.

Sure, I can't argue, you know how it works.  My dream of simplicity may 
indeed
be impossible.  But you know what's in my head--something that's the 
equivalent of
'just sourcing' your functions, but doing it from precompiled code, and 
not pre-loading
anything at all, but doing it only when the function is actually 
called.  Nuts, it's so
elegant in theory.  I'm sorta in love with the idea but implementation 
becomes
a can of worms.
> } and not try to digest existing .zwc's,
> } and not worry about directories.
>
> This is a philosophical issue along the same lines as CSH_NULL_GLOB.
> If I name a bunch of things and some of them are wrong, should the
> shell complain about them or not, and either way, should it skip
> them and continue working on the ones that are correct?  Which is
> more likely to produce the final result that the user expected?
Indeed, and the right answer is not obvious.  Hand holding tends to end up
creating more problems that it solves.  I'd suppose that if there are 
built in
exceptions to the plain reading of a command it must be exceptions that
could never be desired ever, like, perhaps, including a .zwc inside it's own
replacement. Or not.  I always hated Microsoft for making 80% of things
easier and the remaining 20% impossible.  If it has to be tough, then it has
to be tough.

You know Bart, with all the time you've spent on this, you could have 
written
that HOWTO ;-)

Seriously, it requires something broader than just reading the manual.
>


  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-20 23:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-17 15:54 autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-17 17:34 ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-17 19:22   ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-17 20:40     ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-17 23:06       ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-17 23:20         ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-18  1:20           ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-18  4:04             ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-18  5:00               ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-18  5:52                 ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-18 15:49                   ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-18 16:52                     ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-18 18:29                       ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-18 19:02                         ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-18 22:57                           ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-19  0:14   ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-19 15:04     ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-19 16:29       ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-19 18:13         ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-19 21:22           ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-19 22:12             ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-20  5:53               ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-20 15:37                 ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-20 15:59                   ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-20  0:58             ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-20  5:41               ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-20 23:21                 ` Ray Andrews [this message]
2015-09-21  4:18                   ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-21 17:03                     ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-21 18:17                       ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-21 20:09                         ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-22  3:19                           ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-22 17:33                             ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-23  4:39                               ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-23 15:06                                 ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-29 23:16                             ` wheels within wheels Ray Andrews
2015-09-30  2:55                               ` Kurtis Rader
2015-09-30  3:24                                 ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-30  3:40                                 ` Bart Schaefer
2015-09-30  4:03                                   ` Mikael Magnusson
2015-09-30  4:15                                   ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-30  7:05                                     ` Bart Schaefer
2015-09-30 15:06                                       ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-30  8:01                                     ` ZyX
2015-09-30 15:18                                       ` Ray Andrews
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-09-08 12:32 Announce of Zsh Navigation Tools Sebastian Gniazdowski
2015-09-12 17:50 ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-12 19:41   ` ZyX
2015-09-12 21:03     ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-12 22:10       ` Bart Schaefer
2015-09-12 23:03         ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-12 23:43           ` Bart Schaefer
2015-09-14  2:14             ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-14  2:38               ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-14  3:34                 ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-14 20:21                   ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-15  2:48                     ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-15  3:48                       ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-15 16:18                         ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-16  4:09                         ` autoload Ray Andrews
2014-12-23 15:51 autoload Ray Andrews
2014-12-23 17:36 ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2014-12-23 18:19   ` autoload Ray Andrews

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