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From: Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca>
To: zsh-users@zsh.org
Subject: Re: autoload
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 10:03:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5600386E.7060201@eastlink.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <150920211840.ZM31871@torch.brasslantern.com>

On 09/20/2015 09:18 PM, Bart Schaefer wrote:
> Except for the point that "just sourcing" doesn't actually call the
> function, everything you wrote is what DOES happen as long as the
> functions are defined in separate files.  Because the language is
> interpreted, the shell itself can't decompose a file into individual
> function entry points the way e.g. a linker can for a shared object.
Really?  That's hard to fathom.  I source a file and it finds whatever 
functions may
be in there, but they can't be packed into a .zwc file without worrying 
about it's
name?  I'll take that on authority, but it blows my breakers.  I'd have 
thought it
would be as transparent as:

     for aa in /aWorking/Zsh/Source/*; do source $aa; done

... becoming:

zcompile --do_it  /not-the-same-directory-dummy\!/Source.zwc 
/aWorking/Zsh/Source/*

... but if you say that's not even doable I can't argue.
> } You know Bart, with all the time you've spent on this, you could have
> } written that HOWTO ;-)
>
> The problem is, I wouldn't have known what to write.
>
Yeah, the paradox of the expert.  Experts don't know what they know.  
The best
writer is the guy who just learned it so he remembers what he needed to 
learn,
where he went wrong, what was important, what was distraction.  Then the
expert edits it for factuality.  Once four or five learners have added their
lessons to the doc, it becomes really usable for the next guy.  Like the 
best
wikis.  The less of an expert you are, the better judge you are as to the
usefulness of a doc.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-21 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-17 15:54 autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-17 17:34 ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-17 19:22   ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-17 20:40     ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-17 23:06       ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-17 23:20         ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-18  1:20           ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-18  4:04             ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-18  5:00               ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-18  5:52                 ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-18 15:49                   ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-18 16:52                     ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-18 18:29                       ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-18 19:02                         ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-18 22:57                           ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-19  0:14   ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-19 15:04     ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-19 16:29       ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-19 18:13         ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-19 21:22           ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-19 22:12             ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-20  5:53               ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-20 15:37                 ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-20 15:59                   ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-20  0:58             ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-20  5:41               ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-20 23:21                 ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-21  4:18                   ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-21 17:03                     ` Ray Andrews [this message]
2015-09-21 18:17                       ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-21 20:09                         ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-22  3:19                           ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-22 17:33                             ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-23  4:39                               ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-23 15:06                                 ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-29 23:16                             ` wheels within wheels Ray Andrews
2015-09-30  2:55                               ` Kurtis Rader
2015-09-30  3:24                                 ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-30  3:40                                 ` Bart Schaefer
2015-09-30  4:03                                   ` Mikael Magnusson
2015-09-30  4:15                                   ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-30  7:05                                     ` Bart Schaefer
2015-09-30 15:06                                       ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-30  8:01                                     ` ZyX
2015-09-30 15:18                                       ` Ray Andrews
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-09-08 12:32 Announce of Zsh Navigation Tools Sebastian Gniazdowski
2015-09-12 17:50 ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-12 19:41   ` ZyX
2015-09-12 21:03     ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-12 22:10       ` Bart Schaefer
2015-09-12 23:03         ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-12 23:43           ` Bart Schaefer
2015-09-14  2:14             ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-14  2:38               ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-14  3:34                 ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-14 20:21                   ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-15  2:48                     ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-15  3:48                       ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-15 16:18                         ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-16  4:09                         ` autoload Ray Andrews
2014-12-23 15:51 autoload Ray Andrews
2014-12-23 17:36 ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2014-12-23 18:19   ` autoload Ray Andrews

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