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From: Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca>
To: zsh-users@zsh.org
Subject: Re: autoload
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 13:09:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56006401.5060902@eastlink.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <150921111746.ZM388@torch.brasslantern.com>

On 09/21/2015 11:17 AM, Bart Schaefer wrote:
> Did you miss the email where I explained how to do that?
On the first pass through a subject like this there is so much to learn
and so much error and misunderstanding and diversions and distractions
that one is lucky to come out of it alive.  On the second pass things will
gel.
>
> Really think about "because the language is interpreted."
Deep lessons ...
>
> I can make up an infinite number of increasingly convoluted cases to
> break any "simple, elegant" automation.  So unless you happen to have
> "zmodload zsh/artificial-intellgence" lying around ready for use, I'm
> done with this discussion.
>
I'd just expect the precompiled function to behave exactly as a sourced 
function
would behave, all that's different is that the file being parsed is ... 
is this where
I go off the rails? ... what I'd call 'object code' which is to say that 
it's somewhat
pre-digested as far as the interpreter goes.  But when it is actually 
called (as if
it were sourced) it would behave exactly identically to a normal sourced 
function.
It's just parsed quicker.  Very different from C, as you say.

I dunno, if I have a function ' test () { echo $PWD } ' I'm not 
expecting $PWD to
be hard captured at sourcing time, is there even a way to do that? It 
might be
cool if there was a way, but surely that's rather unusual.  So, on the 
contrary,
I'm thinking not of artificial-intelligence but rather of something
dumb as a donkey.  Autoloaded functions at present seem to behave as I'd
expect, so I don't know where the problem arises.  Your 'evaluate once'
scenario is valid of course, but I have no idea how that would be 
handled even
by a regular function.  It seems a separate issue to me.

To be honest, your stamina sticking with this so long has already 
astonished me,
so if you're done, that's overdue, but thanks.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-21 20:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-17 15:54 autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-17 17:34 ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-17 19:22   ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-17 20:40     ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-17 23:06       ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-17 23:20         ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-18  1:20           ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-18  4:04             ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-18  5:00               ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-18  5:52                 ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-18 15:49                   ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-18 16:52                     ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-18 18:29                       ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-18 19:02                         ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-18 22:57                           ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-19  0:14   ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-19 15:04     ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-19 16:29       ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-19 18:13         ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-19 21:22           ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-19 22:12             ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-20  5:53               ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-20 15:37                 ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-20 15:59                   ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-20  0:58             ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-20  5:41               ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-20 23:21                 ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-21  4:18                   ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-21 17:03                     ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-21 18:17                       ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-21 20:09                         ` Ray Andrews [this message]
2015-09-22  3:19                           ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-22 17:33                             ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-23  4:39                               ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-23 15:06                                 ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-29 23:16                             ` wheels within wheels Ray Andrews
2015-09-30  2:55                               ` Kurtis Rader
2015-09-30  3:24                                 ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-30  3:40                                 ` Bart Schaefer
2015-09-30  4:03                                   ` Mikael Magnusson
2015-09-30  4:15                                   ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-30  7:05                                     ` Bart Schaefer
2015-09-30 15:06                                       ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-30  8:01                                     ` ZyX
2015-09-30 15:18                                       ` Ray Andrews
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-09-08 12:32 Announce of Zsh Navigation Tools Sebastian Gniazdowski
2015-09-12 17:50 ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-12 19:41   ` ZyX
2015-09-12 21:03     ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-12 22:10       ` Bart Schaefer
2015-09-12 23:03         ` Ray Andrews
2015-09-12 23:43           ` Bart Schaefer
2015-09-14  2:14             ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-14  2:38               ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-14  3:34                 ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-14 20:21                   ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-15  2:48                     ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-15  3:48                       ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2015-09-15 16:18                         ` autoload Ray Andrews
2015-09-16  4:09                         ` autoload Ray Andrews
2014-12-23 15:51 autoload Ray Andrews
2014-12-23 17:36 ` autoload Bart Schaefer
2014-12-23 18:19   ` autoload Ray Andrews

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