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Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.10.0 Subject: Re: Most minimal configuration challenge Content-language: en-US To: zsh-users@zsh.org References: <0e8bc96d-17a7-4be2-afab-7a0fd827866f@www.fastmail.com> <5141de6b-dbee-4d4b-3b74-d95a671fa04e@luffy.cx> <33d0bd1a-4da7-416d-a92a-04ceb07d1107@www.fastmail.com> <1c9b6072-26e7-467e-b8cc-7d44f15eaf1b@www.fastmail.com> From: Ray Andrews In-reply-to: Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Seq: 28006 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-users@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-users-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-users-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: On 2022-08-28 11:58, Bart Schaefer wrote: > On Sun, Aug 28, 2022 at 6:59 AM Ray Andrews wrote: > > Er, what? > > Zsh by default has for years bound both ^? (del) and ^H (backspace) to > backward-delete-char. What else are you expecting? Maybe that was just bash, I could be getting my wires crossed.  What remains is that overwhelming sense of things being very unhelpful for the beginner. But I would say that the default install of zsh should be friendlier.  Memory fades tho, it's many years ago.