From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 29792 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2003 07:06:40 -0000 Received: from sunsite.dk (130.225.247.90) by ns1.primenet.com.au with SMTP; 31 Jan 2003 07:06:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 16803 invoked by alias); 31 Jan 2003 07:06:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@sunsite.dk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-Seq: 5851 Received: (qmail 16795 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2003 07:06:12 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO sunsite.dk) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Jan 2003 07:06:12 -0000 X-MessageWall-Score: 0 (sunsite.dk) Received: from [192.35.17.28] by sunsite.dk (MessageWall 1.0.8) with SMTP; 31 Jan 2003 7:6:12 -0000 Received: from mail2.siemens.de (mail2.siemens.de [139.25.208.11]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0V6eb616803; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:40:37 +0100 (MET) Received: from MOWD019A.mow.siemens.ru ([163.242.196.119]) by mail2.siemens.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0V6eXR22296; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 07:40:34 +0100 (MET) Received: by mowd019a.mow.siemens.ru with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:41:35 +0300 Received: from mw2b210c (163.242.193.12 [163.242.193.12]) by MOWD019A.mow.siemens.ru with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id D0PPPNPH; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:41:31 +0300 From: Borzenkov Andrey To: "'Karsten Thygesen'" , "'Roman Neuhauser'" Cc: "'zsh users'" , staff@sunsite.dk Subject: RE: qconfirm in front of zsh-users@ Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:40:24 +0300 Message-ID: <6134254DE87BD411908B00A0C99B044F03A0B62C@mowd019a.mow.siemens.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <86hec1hwo2.fsf@karthy.karthy.net> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 > > Roman> 1) zsh-users@ (that's what we specifically talked about, > Roman> could cover -workers@ if needed) will be protected by > Roman> qconfirm, which means that non-subscribers will be required to > Roman> confirm their posts. > > Is that really required based on traffic since saturday? Last > saturday, we installed Messagewall for all sunsite mails, so the > spam/vira level should have dropped to a pretty low level. So is the > request still valid? Have you seen a lot spam since saturday? > the spam volume has decreased but it is still there. Lists known to me that do use confirmation do not have spam at all. Some other high-volume lists (lkml as the very good example) have much better signal to noise ratio comparing with zsh lists. -andrey