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arc=none Received: from email.dondley.com ([34.203.132.18]:57760) by zero.zsh.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) id 1rTShW-000Nxq-Tk; Fri, 26 Jan 2024 20:21:24 +0000 Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [216.193.141.189]) by email.dondley.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BD53320179; Fri, 26 Jan 2024 15:21:21 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=dondley.com; s=default; t=1706300481; bh=3MOHnhflCvUjQ4CRhTx+BncFLdgAJ/5yNQaQdXayLZg=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From; b=KjGPAzB0QRWzgtEcwh6pm0deRYl6xyCyzJJigoZZVtdPQA+HjMDUKMcw5V1xr5rZ6 dLYxbx51pzCbFCEOzrYo7zZCg6kE9+Uaf8lkc225qqqKui2lv6vF2HUFxZcTdVOjLf A34wofASzXpRt8GAPMyxPG2Wset0n3alURKqfjLZ388ba2hflUIT9J7dh4WRZgrSch rt6NzpL90VkIHdWBBcgj2hnCN7r3rOVGIY8i+4r3eV9mEdyiupTbK28LuFdnT5617Z v0UsdXRDa9JxBBse+rnzlUX1gvGUz2p/wrbbR3wwgciJFTSkABg8mAT2KKoz6ovYuw S0CCQ4/390xHg== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.400.31\)) Subject: Re: Can't tell the difference in operation between PATH_SCRIPT and NO_PATH_SCRIPT From: Steve Dondley In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2024 15:21:11 -0500 Cc: Ray Andrews , zsh-users@zsh.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <69A110B1-E45F-446F-AE05-67EE6013A8FD@dondley.com> References: <73E4333B-C282-4A58-837C-A50F73E13289@dondley.com> <680FA5D3-E8FD-49F2-9AE3-C169A6D9DA9E@dondley.com> <4a1df20e-70c4-41ed-b370-4fbbae0619b9@app.fastmail.com> <3DC872AC-5B19-468D-85D5-5D3A501EF7E9@dondley.com> <2CF29A22-6721-4275-8E92-7FF61CE4CDCB@dondley.com> <316F625D-EC13-43C5-808F-B78DD09E906C@dondley.com> <395469e2-bcfe-467b-b749-85a284876b64@eastlink.ca> To: Roman Perepelitsa X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.400.31) X-Seq: 29593 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-users@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-users-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-users-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: , List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: >=20 > I agree that your version would be better for someone unfamiliar with > this concept. But can you see that it might be less efficient for > someone who already understands it? And consider where to draw the > line with foundational explanations. Should we also explain what $HOME > is, what a directory means, or what 'consult' implies? You are right. It=E2=80=99s a judgement call and you have to draw the = line somewhere.=20 What I=E2=80=99m saying I=E2=80=99ve been using shells since the late = 90s. I know some things but there=E2=80=99s still a lot I don=E2=80=99t = know because I never studied shells in any detail. If a manual can=E2=80=99t help a user like me or if I find it = frustrating to read and use it, I=E2=80=99d have to say it is probably = erring in the direction of being to concise. That might be great fo the = 10% of users who are hard core developers doing all kinds of fancy = things. But in my opinion it should also strive to help reach a wider = audience that use a shell as a means to a different end.=