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Content-language: en-US To: zsh-users@zsh.org References: <20240309143036.xwqm234mtu5wqh2r@chazelas.org> <20240310121359.iuhmf5renmuf6y4z@chazelas.org> From: Ray Andrews In-reply-to: X-Seq: 29726 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-users@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-users-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-users-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: , List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------HWgE3GWDQEsoBouRTzu35Y82 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 2024-03-10 13:08, Bart Schaefer wrote: > Given all this uncertainty and that we're already more than 2 years > past the 5.9 release, I'd rather get the tractable parts out there > sooner. I thought I'd be able to pick it up as the thread progressed, but I still have no idea what a namespace even is.  It sure sounds complicated.  I keep seeing structures because of the dots but I know that's not the case.  In a sentence or two, what is a namespace and why do we want it?  But I do remember vaguely that I once had a question where the future solution was going to be just that.  BTW interesting to learn that ksh is still in active development, I thought it was on ice, like bash. --------------HWgE3GWDQEsoBouRTzu35Y82 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On 2024-03-10 13:08, Bart Schaefer wrote:

Given all this uncertainty and that we're already more than 2 years 
past the 5.9 release, I'd rather get the tractable parts out there
sooner.
I thought I'd be able to pick it up as the thread progressed, but I still have no idea what a namespace even is.  It sure sounds complicated.  I keep seeing structures because of the dots but I know that's not the case.  In a sentence or two, what is a namespace and why do we want it?  But I do remember vaguely that I once had a question where the future solution was going to be just that.  BTW interesting to learn that ksh is still in active development, I thought it was on ice, like bash.  

    

    

  


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