* zsh : launch tmux in just one terminal
@ 2021-10-01 10:47 zzapper
2021-10-01 13:25 ` Marc Chantreux
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From: zzapper @ 2021-10-01 10:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Zsh-Users List
hi
I would like to my first invocation of a 'Gnome terminal' on Linux mint
to automatically launch tmux but not for any subsequent consoles .
My more generic question is how can consoles share information?
Best regards
David Rayner
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* Re: zsh : launch tmux in just one terminal
2021-10-01 10:47 zsh : launch tmux in just one terminal zzapper
@ 2021-10-01 13:25 ` Marc Chantreux
2021-10-01 13:30 ` Steve Dondley
2021-10-01 16:54 ` zzapper
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From: Marc Chantreux @ 2021-10-01 13:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Zsh-Users List
hello,
> I would like to my first invocation of a 'Gnome terminal' on Linux mint to
> automatically launch tmux but not for any subsequent consoles
> My more generic question is how can consoles share information?
They just don't: consoles are just devices, not programs.
The way i deal with it is to create specific way to call terminal via
desktop files.
in my /home/mc/.local/share/applications, i have
---[ tmux_attach.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Comment=terminal multiplexer
Exec=tilix -e tmux att
Icon=mksh32
Name=attach tmux session
Type=Application
---[ tmux_back.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Comment=terminal multiplexer
Exec=tilix -e zsh -ic 'c&&tmux'
Icon=mksh32
Name=cd back with tmux
Type=Application
---[ tmux_session.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Comment=terminal multiplexer
Name=new tmux session
Exec=tilix -e tmux
Icon=mksh32
Type=Application
Note 1: c is just a command i wrote to navigate in a MRU directories list.
it's basically cd $( fzf < ~/.was-pwd )
regards
marc
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* Re: zsh : launch tmux in just one terminal
2021-10-01 10:47 zsh : launch tmux in just one terminal zzapper
2021-10-01 13:25 ` Marc Chantreux
@ 2021-10-01 13:30 ` Steve Dondley
2021-10-01 16:54 ` zzapper
2 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Steve Dondley @ 2021-10-01 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: zsh-users
On 2021-10-01 06:47 AM, zzapper wrote:
> hi
>
> I would like to my first invocation of a 'Gnome terminal' on Linux
> mint to automatically launch tmux but not for any subsequent consoles
> .
>
>
> My more generic question is how can consoles share information?
>
>
> Best regards
>
> David Rayner
I'm not sure I completely understand what you are trying to do. But it
sounds like you want to detect if tmux is already running. I'd run a
simple script when the terminal starts up using this feature:
https://superuser.com/a/591333
The script will detect if the tmux process is running by grepping the
output of the 'ps' command and launch tmux if it's not already running.
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* Re: zsh : launch tmux in just one terminal
2021-10-01 10:47 zsh : launch tmux in just one terminal zzapper
2021-10-01 13:25 ` Marc Chantreux
2021-10-01 13:30 ` Steve Dondley
@ 2021-10-01 16:54 ` zzapper
2021-10-01 17:19 ` Michael Klemm
2 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: zzapper @ 2021-10-01 16:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: zsh-users
Thanks for both answers
this seems to be what I need
if pgrep "tmux" > /dev/null ; then echo "Running" ; else echo "Stopped" ; fi
>
>
> Best regards
>
> David Rayner
>
>
>
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* RE: zsh : launch tmux in just one terminal
2021-10-01 16:54 ` zzapper
@ 2021-10-01 17:19 ` Michael Klemm
2021-10-01 17:43 ` Bart Schaefer
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From: Michael Klemm @ 2021-10-01 17:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: zzapper, zsh-users
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Hi,
> -----Original Message-----
> From: zsh-users-request@zsh.org <zsh-users-request@zsh.org> On Behalf Of
> zzapper
> Sent: Freitag, 1. Oktober 2021 18:55
> Thanks for both answers
>
> this seems to be what I need
>
> if pgrep "tmux" > /dev/null ; then echo "Running" ; else echo "Stopped" ;
> fi
That will only work if you're the only user of the system, who has tmux
processes. On multi-user machine with several tmux instances running for
different users, pgrep tmux will also match those.
Kind regards,
-michael
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* Re: zsh : launch tmux in just one terminal
2021-10-01 17:19 ` Michael Klemm
@ 2021-10-01 17:43 ` Bart Schaefer
2021-10-01 20:16 ` Ray Andrews
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Bart Schaefer @ 2021-10-01 17:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Klemm; +Cc: zzapper, zsh-users
On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 10:19 AM Michael Klemm <michael@dontknow.de> wrote:
>
> > if pgrep "tmux" > /dev/null ; then echo "Running" ; else echo "Stopped" ;
> > fi
>
> On multi-user machine with several tmux instances running for
> different users, pgrep tmux will also match those.
Just make it: pgrep -u $USER tmux
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* Re: zsh : launch tmux in just one terminal
2021-10-01 17:43 ` Bart Schaefer
@ 2021-10-01 20:16 ` Ray Andrews
2021-10-01 20:34 ` zzapper
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Ray Andrews @ 2021-10-01 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: zsh-users
On 2021-10-01 10:43 a.m., Bart Schaefer wrote:
>
> Just make it: pgrep -u $USER tmux
>
If it's not too far off topic, what's the advantage of tmux over just a
whole bunch of xterms?
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* Re: zsh : launch tmux in just one terminal
2021-10-01 20:16 ` Ray Andrews
@ 2021-10-01 20:34 ` zzapper
2021-10-01 20:53 ` Steve Dondley
2021-10-01 23:03 ` Ray Andrews
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From: zzapper @ 2021-10-01 20:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: zsh-users
On 01/10/2021 21:16, Ray Andrews wrote:
> On 2021-10-01 10:43 a.m., Bart Schaefer wrote:
>>
>> Just make it: pgrep -u $USER tmux
>>
> If it's not too far off topic, what's the advantage of tmux over just
> a whole bunch of xterms?
>
>
Well it's a kind of poor-man's multi-screen. I can be seeing the result
of a bc in one split, a grep in another, help file in a third, or I can
have 2 zsh splits and one bash.
It helps alleviate the 'which xterm was I using problem'.
I could also have a tmux for one project and then jump to a tmux for a
second project
zzapper
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* Re: zsh : launch tmux in just one terminal
2021-10-01 20:34 ` zzapper
@ 2021-10-01 20:53 ` Steve Dondley
2021-10-01 23:06 ` Ray Andrews
2021-10-01 23:03 ` Ray Andrews
1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Steve Dondley @ 2021-10-01 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: zzapper; +Cc: zsh-users
On 2021-10-01 04:34 PM, zzapper wrote:
> On 01/10/2021 21:16, Ray Andrews wrote:
>> On 2021-10-01 10:43 a.m., Bart Schaefer wrote:
>>>
>>> Just make it: pgrep -u $USER tmux
>>>
>> If it's not too far off topic, what's the advantage of tmux over just
>> a whole bunch of xterms?
One huge advantage is the ability to switch very quickly between
different terminals. This is great when you have a lot of vim terminals
open when you are doing development work. You can also group the
different terminals into windows and the windows into sessions, offering
an insane amount of organization. Organizing let's say 50 different
shells is a breeze.
It's especially useful when you ssh into another machine. You run a tmux
session on the remote machine. If you get disconnected or power your
local machine down, you can log back in and be right back where you
were. This can also be done locally with a plugin, tmux resurrect. So if
your computer goes down, your terminals will be right there when you
fire up tmux so you can jump back into working.
There's many more advantages, but these are the big ones.
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* Re: zsh : launch tmux in just one terminal
2021-10-01 20:34 ` zzapper
2021-10-01 20:53 ` Steve Dondley
@ 2021-10-01 23:03 ` Ray Andrews
1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Ray Andrews @ 2021-10-01 23:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: zsh-users
On 2021-10-01 1:34 p.m., zzapper wrote:
>
> It helps alleviate the 'which xterm was I using problem'.
>
> I could also have a tmux for one project and then jump to a tmux for a
> second project
>
>
> zzapper
>
Thanks. I've never felt anything missing using just xterms, but you
give me some ideas.
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* Re: zsh : launch tmux in just one terminal
2021-10-01 20:53 ` Steve Dondley
@ 2021-10-01 23:06 ` Ray Andrews
2021-10-02 4:52 ` Steve Dondley
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Ray Andrews @ 2021-10-01 23:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: zsh-users
On 2021-10-01 1:53 p.m., Steve Dondley wrote:
> On 2021-10-01 04:34 PM, zzapper wrote:
>> On 01/10/2021 21:16, Ray Andrews wrote:
>>> On 2021-10-01 10:43 a.m., Bart Schaefer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just make it: pgrep -u $USER tmux
>>>>
>>> If it's not too far off topic, what's the advantage of tmux over
>>> just a whole bunch of xterms?
>
> One huge advantage is the ability to switch very quickly between
> different terminals. This is great when you have a lot of vim
> terminals open when you are doing development work. You can also group
> the different terminals into windows and the windows into sessions,
> offering an insane amount of organization. Organizing let's say 50
> different shells is a breeze.
Cool. I rarely go past five, but maybe tmux is the way to go.
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* Re: zsh : launch tmux in just one terminal
2021-10-01 23:06 ` Ray Andrews
@ 2021-10-02 4:52 ` Steve Dondley
2021-10-02 14:40 ` Ray Andrews
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Steve Dondley @ 2021-10-02 4:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ray Andrews; +Cc: zsh-users
> Cool. I rarely go past five, but maybe tmux is the way to go.
Yeah, it's definitely worth at least knowing about even with just 5
terminals, especially if you strive to keep your hands off the mouse to
be more efficient.
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* Re: zsh : launch tmux in just one terminal
2021-10-02 4:52 ` Steve Dondley
@ 2021-10-02 14:40 ` Ray Andrews
2021-10-02 16:04 ` Steve Dondley
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Ray Andrews @ 2021-10-02 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: zsh-users
On 2021-10-01 9:52 p.m., Steve Dondley wrote:
>
>> Cool. I rarely go past five, but maybe tmux is the way to go.
>
> Yeah, it's definitely worth at least knowing about even with just 5
> terminals, especially if you strive to keep your hands off the mouse
> to be more efficient.
>
I wrote a program that jumps my mouse pointer from one terminal to the
next via hotkeys. Yeah, when you're in terminal mode, having to reach
for the mouse just to move from one to the other is really annoying.
Sounds like tmux handles this itself, but will it jump between
monitors? And my program works regardless of the running applications
so whereas it mostly for use in terminals I can jump between, say a
browser and my email too.
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* Re: zsh : launch tmux in just one terminal
2021-10-02 14:40 ` Ray Andrews
@ 2021-10-02 16:04 ` Steve Dondley
2021-10-02 19:09 ` Ray Andrews
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Steve Dondley @ 2021-10-02 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ray Andrews; +Cc: zsh-users
> I wrote a program that jumps my mouse pointer from one terminal to the
> next via hotkeys. Yeah, when you're in terminal mode, having to reach
> for the mouse just to move from one to the other is really annoying.
> Sounds like tmux handles this itself, but will it jump between
> monitors? And my program works regardless of the running applications
> so whereas it mostly for use in terminals I can jump between, say a
> browser and my email too.
You can have multiple tmux sessions on one computer. So you culd
dedicate terminal "A" to tmux session "A" and have terminal "B" show
tmux session "B" and just use hot keys to switch between them like you
currently do.
And tmux is fully scriptable. So let's say you want to send a command
from one pane in session A to another pane in session B, you can do this
with a tmux hotkey without even leaving the current terminal. It's very
powerful. I've used feature when I do testing. I'll punch a key and it
will test the code in the current pane in a completely different
terminal window running in a different tmux session.
I'm on a mac and I use iterm, which is just a terminal with more bells
and whistles. I have two monitors. I typically have 3 terminal windows
open: a vim session open for taking notes, a zsh session for running
taskwarrior commands, and one with tmux open for all my coding and
server administration. Within the session, you can have multiple
windows. I like to use windows for my different projects. So if I want
to switch to project "A", I hit a tmux hot key to jump to window "A" and
all the important files are right there, already open in vim and ready
for editing. Each file is in its own tmux pane, which is running it's
own separate shell.
At any rate, my notes and tasks are on one display, the tmux session is
full screen on the other. I use simple hot keys to change focus from one
terminal window to the other. For other applications like my browser, I
have hotkeys for those as well.
Well, that's probably more than you wanted to know. Like with anything,
only you can decide if using tmux is worth the investment of time in
learning it. If this is what you do for a living, then yeah, you should
definitely look into tmux as it will likely pay off. If you're more of a
casual user and just like puttering around on your computer for fun are
writing simple scripts and issuing a few dozen commands here and there
over the course of a day, it's probably overkill.
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* Re: zsh : launch tmux in just one terminal
2021-10-02 16:04 ` Steve Dondley
@ 2021-10-02 19:09 ` Ray Andrews
0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Ray Andrews @ 2021-10-02 19:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: zsh-users
On 2021-10-02 9:04 a.m., Steve Dondley wrote:
>
>
> Well, that's probably more than you wanted to know.
I appreciate it Steve. Yeah, I'm mostly pretty lightweight but every
now and then I dive in and get my hands dirty. I'll keep what you've
said in mind if my projects ever get that demanding.
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