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Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.5.0 Subject: Re: Are there zsh error message explanation To: zsh-users@zsh.org References: <2182a97d-fe76-9f37-7f99-1f3b3564795a@eastlink.ca> <20221215211825.GA8411@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> <20221216124759.GD8411@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> Content-language: en-US From: Ray Andrews In-reply-to: <20221216124759.GD8411@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-Seq: 28556 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-users@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-users-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-users-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: , List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: On 2022-12-16 04:47, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > - The error message is unclear and should be improved. Compatibility > doesn't mean we can't ever change the error message; it just limits > what changes we will consider. > Well said.  I can't remember it exactly but I recall complaining about one message that was not only terse it was positively misleading. I vaguely recall it being something to the effect that zsh couldn't find something, whereas in fact she could find it alright but just didn't like it.  Nope, compatibility with inferior traditions is not a virtue.  The other shells are either extinct or moribund.  Zsh owns the field and she should start making the rules, not following them.  Who cares if something is compatible with rc shell anymore?  They say that csh was a monstrosity from the getgo and is best forgotten, not conformed with.  Let's have better messages -- or ID's so that you can look up the long version.