From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13733 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2005 16:16:26 -0000 Received: from news.dotsrc.org (HELO a.mx.sunsite.dk) (130.225.247.88) by ns1.primenet.com.au with SMTP; 7 Feb 2005 16:16:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 8503 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2005 16:16:19 -0000 Received: from sunsite.dk (130.225.247.90) by a.mx.sunsite.dk with SMTP; 7 Feb 2005 16:16:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 9049 invoked by alias); 7 Feb 2005 16:16:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@sunsite.dk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-Seq: 8476 Received: (qmail 9034 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2005 16:16:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO a.mx.sunsite.dk) (130.225.247.88) by sunsite.dk with SMTP; 7 Feb 2005 16:16:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 6637 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2005 16:15:24 -0000 Received: from main.gmane.org (HELO ciao.gmane.org) (80.91.229.2) by a.mx.sunsite.dk with SMTP; 7 Feb 2005 16:15:19 -0000 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1CyBWH-0000vE-Fv for zsh-users@sunsite.dk; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:13:49 +0100 Received: from 241.119-84-212.ippool.ndo.com ([212.84.119.241]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:13:49 +0100 Received: from david by 241.119-84-212.ippool.ndo.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Feb 2005 17:13:49 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: zsh-users@sunsite.dk From: zzapper Subject: Re: list all except Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2005 16:14:40 +0000 Message-ID: <7u4f019bufnid8h88abi5urcthqn0cc0gc@4ax.com> References: <20050204113026.GA4217@fruitcom.com> <1050204174426.ZM15180@candle.brasslantern.com> <1050206002342.ZM16866@candle.brasslantern.com> <9pne01dvg9doit25jn1jga3o5cltoveh8q@4ax.com> <1050207154639.ZM18040@candle.brasslantern.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 241.119-84-212.ippool.ndo.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 2.0/32.652 Sender: news X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Gmane-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: gcszu-zsh-users@m.gmane.org X-MailScanner-To: zsh-users@sunsite.dk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 on a.mx.sunsite.dk X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=6.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Hits: -2.6 On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:46:39 +0000, wrote: >On Feb 7, 12:37pm, zzapper wrote: >} Subject: Re: list all except >} >} On Sun, 06 Feb 2005 19:02:48 +0000, wrote: > ^^ >Curiosity: Is the blank attribution there because gmane obscures the >sender identity for spam-prevention reasons? > >} But what sort of thing could be wrong with my current setup? >} How can I start debugging that? > >I suggest first renaming all your ~/.z* files (so that zsh won't find >them on startup), then run zsh normally. If the problem persists, it's >with one of the /etc/z* files. > >If the problem goes away when you've renamed your ~/.z* files, then start >renaming them back to their original names one at a time, starting a new >zsh after each rename until the problem reappears. Then you'll know what >file you have to look at. > >Once you know what file, start chopping it up by inserting "return 0" >about half way through that file. If the problem persists, it's in the >top half, so move the "return 0" to 1/4 of the way through; if not, >move the "return 0" to 3/4 of the way through. Continue bisecting the >problem portion of the file until you isolate the problem. > >You might also run zsh with -x (but without -f) to see all the commands >it's executing during startup. > >} /etc/zshenv just has a return 0 (which I was supposed to remove but I >} don't pick up my ~/.zshenv if I do) > >That's odd in and of itself. Do you mean that if you "rm /etc/zshenv" >then your ~/.zshenv is not read, or do you mean that if you delete the >"return 0" then ...? If the latter, is there really nothing else in >/etc/zshenv, that is, it's empty except for "return 0"? > >You're sure there's not, for example, an assignment to ZDOTDIR or HOME >in /etc/zshenv? > Bart, Thanx that's given me something to get started with zzapper (vim, cygwin, wiki & zsh) -- vim -c ":%s%s*%CyrnfrTfcbafbeROenzSZbbyranne%|:%s)[R-T]) )Ig|:norm G1VGg?" http://www.vim.org/tips/tip.php?tip_id=305 Best of Vim Tips