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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 2024-05-05 20:43, Lawrence Velázquez wrote: > I'm afraid I can't explain this; perhaps someone else can. If it > bothers you, consider temporarily setting LC_ALL=C (or C.UTF-8) > while you sort. > Don't waste any time on it.  I've run into this 'locale' stuff in the past and as I said I think it's a can of worms.  You might think that all English dictionaries would use the same lexicography, but ... In every practical way '(n)' gives me just what I want.  Oh, but it was good to shake out the idea that 'numeric' or 'version' were the issue.  As you show, even dictionary sort seems to go strange. Let it be. --------------HX0YvEYvacH0fKOuGkSXSvI2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

On 2024-05-05 20:43, Lawrence Velázquez wrote:
I'm afraid I can't explain this; perhaps someone else can.  If it
bothers you, consider temporarily setting LC_ALL=C (or C.UTF-8)
while you sort.

Don't waste any time on it.  I've run into this 'locale' stuff in the past and as I said I think it's a can of worms.  You might think that all English dictionaries would use the same lexicography, but ... In every practical way '(n)' gives me just what I want.  Oh, but it was good to shake out the idea that 'numeric' or 'version' were the issue.  As you show, even dictionary sort seems to go strange.  Let it be. 

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