Re: Most minimal configuration challenge

["Lawrence Velázquez" <larryv@zsh.org>]

On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, at 9:49 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 8:27 PM Lawrence Velázquez <larryv@zsh.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2022, at 10:17 AM, Ray Andrews wrote:
>> > Only people who have just now learned something can
>> > explain it in a way that other people who want to learn it can relate to
>> > because
>> > only the learner has the mind of a learner.
>>
>> Someone who has "just now learned something" has the shallowest
>> possible understanding of it and can only perpetuate that shallow
>> understanding.
>
> That is not quite true. Yes, the vast majority of newcomers have the
> shallowest understanding of zsh, but not necessarily of shells,
> programming languages, configuration systems, or any number of things
> that might be relevant.
>
> This would be like saying a programmer entering the world of economics
> only has the shallowest of understandings and therefore cannot provide
> anything of value.

You are misrepresenting what I said.

> Yeah, maybe not provide any value of economic
> theory, but he can provide value in data processing...

Absolutely, but one would not say this programmer, who has just
learned some basic economics for their job, is the only one who can
write good Econ 101 textbooks.

> Or that a patent clerk cannot provide value
> in physics... Albert Einstein would beg to disagree.

This is not a serious example.  Come on.

> But the true value of educators comes from the fact that they are in
> the frontlines of knowledge acquisition. The main reason they know
> what explanations work better is constant feedback from students.
>
> The clueless students are an essential part of the equation.

I did not say otherwise.

> Ultimately the people who should judge prose meant for newcomers, are
> newcomers. If they say it isn't clear, then it isn't clear.

Obviously.

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