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From: "Bart Schaefer" <schaefer@brasslantern.com>
To: zsh-users@sunsite.auc.dk
Subject: Re: zsh startup files
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 09:13:08 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <990402091308.ZM2312@candle.brasslantern.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5laewrtbc3.fsf@tequila.cs.yale.edu>

On Apr 2,  8:12am, Stefan Monnier wrote:
} Subject: Re: zsh startup files
}
} >>>>> "Bart" == Bart Schaefer <schaefer@brasslantern.com> writes:
} > If you want an example of an even more convoluted initialization system
} > that even more people use even more heavily than zsh, I need only point
} > you to emacs.
} 
} I beg to disagree.  Emacs's initialization is quite a bit simpler

Superficially, you're correct.  In practice, every autoloaded feature
does its own initialization at the time it's loaded, and any serious
user employs numerous hook functions and eval-after-load and so on to
interleave his own adjustments to that intialization.

Even for the simple case, though, there's system init both before and
after ~/.emacs ... but you can disable the "after" one, which is what
I've been saying should be possible with zsh too.

} > Sure.
} 
} These sound like ad-hoc hacks that more or less work in some specific cases.
} Very far from the kind of things you'd want to put in /etc/zshrc.

I agree about the EXINIT one.  Changing the prompt or $LESS is something
a sysadmin might do, even if you think he shouldn't.

} So you agree in a sense:  this fancy ordering is sometimes useful,
} but when it is, other alternatives would work as well.

What I disagree with about that is the "as well."  They'd work *also*,
but not *as well*.

} I'm all for a /etc/zshenv or maybe even more init files

Please, not more.

-- 
Bart Schaefer                                 Brass Lantern Enterprises
http://www.well.com/user/barts              http://www.brasslantern.com


  reply	other threads:[~1999-04-02 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
1999-03-24 22:48 Stefan Monnier
1999-03-24 23:15 ` Sweth Chandramouli
1999-03-25  0:47   ` Stefan Monnier
1999-03-25  5:53     ` Sweth Chandramouli
1999-03-25 11:17       ` Doug Morris
1999-03-25  2:20   ` Jason Price
1999-03-25  9:03 ` Peter Stephenson
     [not found]   ` <9903251002.AA18225@ibmth.df.unipi.it>
1999-03-25 10:55     ` Wolfgang Hukriede
1999-03-25 11:22       ` Peter Stephenson
1999-03-25 12:36         ` Stefan Monnier
1999-03-25 14:00           ` Peter Stephenson
1999-03-25 19:37             ` Stefan Monnier
1999-03-28  1:04               ` Bart Schaefer
1999-03-28 22:14                 ` Stefan Monnier
1999-03-29  1:57                   ` Bart Schaefer
1999-03-29  4:14                     ` Sweth Chandramouli
1999-03-29 14:15                     ` Stefan Monnier
1999-03-29 14:29                       ` Andrej Borsenkow
1999-03-31  7:14                         ` Bart Schaefer
1999-03-31  7:49                           ` Bart Schaefer
1999-04-02 13:12                           ` Stefan Monnier
1999-04-02 17:13                             ` Bart Schaefer [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-03-14 17:38 zzapper
2006-03-14 19:50 ` Wayne Davison
2006-03-15  2:43   ` Bart Schaefer
2006-03-15 18:22     ` Phil Pennock
2006-03-16 19:29     ` Dominic Mitchell
1996-10-19 23:04 Zsh " Nate Johnston
1996-10-20 11:09 ` Zefram

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