From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 673 invoked by alias); 19 Dec 2014 06:08:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Users List List-Post: List-Help: X-Seq: 19599 Received: (qmail 518 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2014 06:08:06 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=07ky99d9dBru0GMmNXUuiXnLPp06b/kyZx0GwMQFErE=; b=R2twIwRCgCyDACoEFO1QX/czOl+q/L5EjguzTbdmYbA4Eg2mVX2dtatUW3w3Yixpah 3T6H0JLVKj24A3B/0zXRbfCpdA6DsA4zzPwWQEDAo7aIoOnBvTzKq2aTazG+6S1E82PU 2hN8XZ93Zh3dCNl4ge8bItboh+zfGtscn7ryLpBDSVBOzY8mUqtZEhw4SPCp9Owh7oSe P42q6ff7+fKa0eQ+uB/HHmPrLk7wRSTF5HhlFRdlW6JgOMAGJ8Y7sHupn8S/v29cYMvP MXPwgTFXxJCADaWhYpr+F1VMxsObSsNOhWGT5A03S8DtIJxq/GO+BLmHNxLFYBxI4L7k lmHw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkvzH058tIxWXMvEpfZv/+igqGblG92rcRkYszTj62ona7amsYXaavfhaXvBA/AOqHApDHu MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.204.70 with SMTP id kw6mr6035959lac.53.1418969280606; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:08:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <141218215728.ZM28835@torch.brasslantern.com> References: <54937E5B.2020008@eastlink.ca> <141218190653.ZM16331@torch.brasslantern.com> <141218215728.ZM28835@torch.brasslantern.com> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 22:08:00 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: surprise with echo From: Kurtis Rader To: Bart Schaefer Cc: Zsh Users Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11343206eb0a25050a8b87ef --001a11343206eb0a25050a8b87ef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Bart Schaefer wrote: > > > } As a grey-beard (I fell in love with UNIX in the 1980's when the > } C-shell was bleeding edge) I'm familiar with all the major variants of > } shells and kernels. > > We ought to have a secret handshake or something by this point. I led > the team that ported Z-Mail to 29 different UNIX variants and three > windowing systems, back in the 90's, after spending my grad school > years in the 80s parallelizing applications for the Sequent machine > and playing with Smalltalk on a Tektronix 4315 running UTek. Did you > ever get to program Occam in the folding editor, for Transputer apps? > (Good lord it's been a long time since I uttered any of those words.) I think we already have a semi-secret handshake. I joined Sequent Computer Systems around 1991 as a support technician. Because I was the only software engineer on that team I wrote a lot of their support tools. Which included supporting (but mostly arguing against) using Smalltalk as the basis for a expert system to support our customers. Those were the days, as you allude to, when things like a X Window system terminal (i.e., client) was bleeding edge. I've never written a line of code in Occam but remember reading about it and debating its merits. -- Kurtis Rader Caretaker of the exceptional canines Junior and Hank --001a11343206eb0a25050a8b87ef--