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From: Kurtis Rader <krader@skepticism.us>
To: Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca>
Cc: Zsh Users <zsh-users@zsh.org>
Subject: Re: export
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 21:54:08 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABx2=D8G70KVTBaTXkojxmqn6bKYp_VX=e7AdO=obbd2c543UA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABx2=D8gHmuPv+asZ6-S5d+gLfEy09WJwAgFoU_epNh-iJ34Nw@mail.gmail.com>

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In general a process, whether it is a zsh or other program, cannot affect
the environment of any other program. It can only provide the initial state
for a new program that it executes. That is what is happening in your
example. You are interacting with a zsh process spawned by a xterm. In that
zsh process you modify its environment. You then spawn a new shell which
inherits a private copy of that environment.

There is no way to modify the private copy a given process has of its
environment.

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Kurtis Rader <krader@skepticism.us> wrote:

> Each process gets a private copy of the environment provided by its
> parent. An xterm is just a process. In your example you have this chain of
> processes (parent => child):
>
>   xterm => zsh => zsh
>
> There is no way for an arbitrary zsh process to affect the environment of
> an arbitrary xterm process.
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/25/2014 08:32 PM, Bart Schaefer wrote:
>>
>>> On Nov 25,  4:57pm, Ray Andrews wrote:
>>> } Subject: export
>>> }
>>> } When I export a variable it is only available in subsequent shells in
>>> } the same xterm. Can I make it export globally?
>>>
>>>
>> You guys don't understand what I'm asking.  I know I can't pass
>> variables 'backwards' (except via a file), but when I export, the
>> variable will be available  in *subsequent* shells but only in the
>> same xterm:
>>
>>         pts/2 HP-y5--5-Debian1 root /aWorking/Zsh $ export trash=TRASH
>>
>>         pts/2 HP-y5--5-Debian1 root /aWorking/Zsh $ zsh
>>
>>         pts/2 HP-y5--5-Debian1 root /aWorking/Zsh $ echo $trash
>>         TRASH
>>
>> ... export does what it should do, but *only* in the same xterm.
>> If I now go to another xterm, $trash is not set:
>>
>>         pts/9 HP-y5--5-Debian1 root /boot/Clone/y8--5-Debian2 $ zsh
>>
>>         pts/9 HP-y5--5-Debian1 root /boot/Clone/y8--5-Debian2 $ echo
>> $trash
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Kurtis Rader
> Caretaker of the exceptional canines Junior and Hank
>



-- 
Kurtis Rader
Caretaker of the exceptional canines Junior and Hank

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-26  5:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-26  0:57 export Ray Andrews
2014-11-26  2:36 ` export Eric Cook
2014-11-26  2:58 ` export Kurtis Rader
2014-11-26  4:32 ` export Bart Schaefer
2014-11-26  4:54   ` export Kurtis Rader
2014-11-26  5:16     ` export Ray Andrews
2014-11-26  5:38       ` export Kurtis Rader
2014-11-26  5:07   ` export Ray Andrews
2014-11-26  5:43     ` export Kurtis Rader
2014-11-26  5:54       ` Kurtis Rader [this message]
2014-11-26 17:43       ` export Ray Andrews
2014-11-26 18:26         ` export Павлов Николай Александрович
2014-11-26 18:45           ` export Ray Andrews
2014-11-26  5:50     ` export Павлов Николай Александрович
2014-11-26  6:21     ` export Kurtis Rader
     [not found]   ` <CABx2=D_zLTkdFsV+eT-VrwwaJQYr=1JeZF0eNqH44saPDYMD7Q__49907.9755544246$1416977797$gmane$org@mail.gmail.com>
2014-11-26  7:18     ` export Stephane Chazelas
2014-11-26 13:37       ` export Clint Hepner
2014-11-26  9:27 ` export Peter Stephenson

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