From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22696 invoked by alias); 23 Feb 2015 01:44:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Users List List-Post: List-Help: X-Seq: 19896 Received: (qmail 1784 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2015 01:44:29 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=IiyVJBKerIJ+uV0IRoleeAcIQnjxe7HaXYvtdIacX18=; b=J8ft/LACzsKUtHVBKk7u4lzfc1tu8ZUXnf57Hqv3JssmheDok8v6eR8cyaKNQfOQj/ Hq+h8X6R6KHaQvSAywlrbtrzplROF34S3j6XV3iAo0jvnfb5BRACKO7Dhz2uPJzTLARM BIW7uPUCfDYHKbZjYIb2noMWkhuBOa20NKJCOvu8oZkXe6L7SpWDb68XlEMwO/PBVlSz iEjE7qiet1+8zQH8N83FPtZG1+BoDIzItq5lwkyNZq257wgajUnl/rNrM97ofw5GPb/A /e8JxvnBtz10TL8TAdpSpamHPRhlV9ktQE2mf9uujZsWNps+DPqbXXMFkyXd5ZsXo3eE Zydw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm0WJj+lU5agQP2Bjsub5xsMFYEA0qpu+lqbocSK8afYHZUOj92bvEBDos/crXWlKjKr0MK MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.73.65 with SMTP id j1mr7564921lbv.87.1424655867315; Sun, 22 Feb 2015 17:44:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <150222171418.ZM19031@torch.brasslantern.com> References: <20150222132310.GA18377@wintermute> <150222111007.ZM18687@torch.brasslantern.com> <54EA6200.1040007@eastlink.ca> <4348921424650217@web10g.yandex.ru> <150222171418.ZM19031@torch.brasslantern.com> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 17:44:27 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ANSI bg colour outside of prompt area From: Kurtis Rader To: Bart Schaefer Cc: Zsh Users Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c33ea2e61eae050fb78a84 --001a11c33ea2e61eae050fb78a84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Bart Schaefer wrote: > Many terminal emulators (more modern than xterm; e.g. gnome-terminal and > PuTTY, among others) provide GUI menus for doing this sort of thing. In > gnome-terminal it's Terminal -> Change Profile, you can set up as many > different profiles as you like with different font/color/lines/columns > etc. combinations, and switch among them as necessary. > > Of course "st" is designed to be extremely simple/lightweight, so it does > not have that sort of feature available. > Don't try to teach grandma how to suck eggs :-) My first programming course in 1976 involved the use of a teletype model-33 with paper tape punch/reader: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teletype_Model_33. My second course to learn FORTRAN required going to the school district administrative offices to use their IBM 80-column card punch machine then taking the card deck to another building to be submitted for running overnight: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punched_card. Kids these days just don't understand how walking to school and back home uphill both ways through two meters of snow helps build character :-) The only other argument that the shell should get involved in this is > for non-GUI consoles. I've seen reference to default console colors > having to be compiled in to the kernel, which does seem like overkill. > Even so, as Zyx pointed out, there's no way for the shell to make color > changes stick when other programs run. > I have several Linux virtual-machines and, yes, the emulated serial console has a hard-coded black background. Boo-hoo. Honestly, if you're spending more than a few minutes a year interacting with a system via such an interface you still have options that are preferable to bolting on another "feature" to zsh that only 0.001% of its users will find valuable. -- Kurtis Rader Caretaker of the exceptional canines Junior and Hank --001a11c33ea2e61eae050fb78a84--