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Subject: Re: surprise with echo
From: Kurtis Rader <krader@skepticism.us>
To: Bart Schaefer <schaefer@brasslantern.com>
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On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Bart Schaefer <schaefer@brasslantern.com>
wrote:
>
> On Dec 18, 10:58pm, Ray Andrews wrote:
>
> } So vital to have known the mind of the master.
>
> Chuckle.  When zsh was written he was a brilliant but inexperienced
> programmer, trying to help his csh-afflicted classmates get used to
> Bourne shell scripting.  He didn't continue working on zsh for long
> after entering the real world.
>

We're definitely getting a bit off-topic but I have to second your
"csh-afflicted" comment. My team (before Sequent hired me) briefly adopted
use of csh (on a Sequent Symmetry with four 20 MHz i386 CPUs and 32 MB not
GB of memory :-) for both interactive use and scripting. Given the other
options (essentially just the Bourne shell) it was a huge improvement for
interactive use. But for scripting it was a nightmare. Google "csh
considered harmful" for details. Thankfully the Korn shell (ksh) soon
became available.

-- 
Kurtis Rader
Caretaker of the exceptional canines Junior and Hank

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