From: Bart Schaefer <schaefer@brasslantern.com>
To: dominik.vogt@gmx.de, zsh-users@zsh.org
Subject: Re: uninvited members of associative array
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 13:33:22 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH+w=7YKc1+yDrDGxq_D9X15WNd_rxgPrS_UMmPHacTFR2=2_w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y5zf2AKVWK04IxEh@localhost>
On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 1:15 PM Dominik Vogt <dominik.vogt@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> But variables are not even a real part of the shell, the shell
> script or its data. Every process has an associated environment
> that consists of "key=value" pairs.
This is entirely untrue. The shell has a separate parameter space
that is unrelated to the process environment. That's why the "export"
("typeset +x") command exists: to move values from the shell
parameter space into the environment space.
You're just making things worse by trying to assert that shells are
not programming languages. Stop.
> Of course modern shells have lots of self contained builtin
> commands and control structures that resemble programming
> languages.
Shells definitely are a form of programming language. That they
combine a number of features not usually found all in the same
language doesn't change that.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-12-16 21:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-12-15 23:48 Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 0:05 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-12-16 0:48 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 1:29 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-12-16 2:09 ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16 2:56 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 3:21 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-12-16 4:16 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 10:05 ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16 14:13 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 15:19 ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16 19:14 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 16:30 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-12-16 18:21 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 19:04 ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16 20:10 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 21:15 ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16 21:33 ` Bart Schaefer [this message]
2022-12-16 21:59 ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16 22:15 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-12-16 23:33 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-17 12:47 ` Pier Paolo Grassi
2022-12-17 17:32 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-17 18:10 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-17 18:19 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2022-12-17 20:31 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-17 20:49 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-12-17 21:07 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-12-17 21:52 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-17 22:10 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-12-17 23:41 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-12-18 0:15 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-18 0:25 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-12-18 2:13 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-18 20:12 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-12-18 20:26 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-12-18 20:41 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-18 3:44 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-12-17 23:25 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-12-16 21:33 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 20:25 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-12-16 21:43 ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16 3:20 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-12-16 4:15 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 8:12 ` Roman Perepelitsa
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