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From: Bart Schaefer <schaefer@brasslantern.com>
To: Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca>, zsh-users@zsh.org
Subject: Re: why is eval needed?
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 14:31:55 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH+w=7b3CGzNSov6uyCXeNTFv84kEcRGmSfSwZA5=eKn+2wDBg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221120201659.na4ypuivspeoowhu@chazelas.org>

On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 12:17 PM Stephane Chazelas
<stephane@chazelas.org> wrote:
>
> No, you have it completely backwards. And I think at the heart
> of your misunderstanding there is the misconception that you
> pass a "command string" to an executable.

This misconception may be an effect of Ray's background with
DOS/Windows command interpreters.

In that world, each command is responsible both for parsing its
"arguments" and for interpreting them.  There was (is, I suppose) a
standard DLL to support the parsing part, and a lot of commands used
it, but it was still down to the command itself to call that DLL.

In the Unix-based world, it's expected that the shell will do the
parsing and the command only has to do the interpreting, so there are
a lot more rules about the structure of the command line.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-20 22:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-19 14:34 Ray Andrews
2022-11-19 14:43 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2022-11-19 17:02   ` Ray Andrews
2022-11-19 17:10     ` Roman Perepelitsa
2022-11-19 18:02     ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-19 18:18       ` Roman Perepelitsa
2022-11-19 16:48 ` Stephane Chazelas
2022-11-19 19:12   ` Ray Andrews
2022-11-19 19:50     ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-11-19 22:21       ` Ray Andrews
2022-11-20  8:55         ` Stephane Chazelas
2022-11-20 13:47           ` Ray Andrews
2022-11-20 15:08             ` Stephane Chazelas
2022-11-20 16:27               ` Ray Andrews
2022-11-20 20:16                 ` Stephane Chazelas
2022-11-20 22:31                   ` Bart Schaefer [this message]
2022-11-21  2:13                     ` Ray Andrews
2022-11-20 22:47                   ` Ray Andrews

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