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From: Bart Schaefer <schaefer@brasslantern.com>
To: Zsh Users <zsh-users@zsh.org>
Subject: Fwd: more splitting travails
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2024 12:03:07 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH+w=7bAWOF-v36hdNjaxBB-5rhjsp97mAtyESyR2OcojcEFUQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA=-s3zc5a+PA7draaA=FmXtwU9K8RrHbb70HbQN8MhmuXTYrQ@mail.gmail.com>

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This was sent privately to me but pretty obviously intended for the list.

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Mark J. Reed <markjreed@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: more splitting travails
To: Bart Schaefer <schaefer@brasslantern.com>


We talked offlist about how zsh inherited the paradoxical-looking and
"${array[@]}" from earlier shells,  though it works differently such that a
simple $array usually does what you want?

Well, here's where the exception to that "usually" comes in.

Although the elements of an array expanded as simply $array don't get
generally re-split on whitespace the way an unquoted ${array[@]} or
${array[*]} does in bash, any elements that are completely empty do get
lost:

        *zsh% *array=(one two '' '' five )
    *zsh% *echo $#array
    5
    *zsh%* printf '%s\n' $array # King Arthur, is that you?
    one
    two
    five
    *zsh% *

So that's where you need the wonky inherited syntax if you want to include
empty values:

    *zsh%* printf '%s\n' "${array[@]}"
    one
    two


    five
    *zsh%*

Bart's question is also salient, however:

    > I have a file with blank lines in it, I read it into a variable

How do you read it in, and into what kind of variable? If you want to read
a file into an array of lines, preserving empty lines, you can do this:

    lines=("${(@f)$(<~"$filename")}")

 The stuff in parentheses just inside the ${ are parameter expansion flags,
which you can read about on the zshexpn man page.  In particular, the f
flag splits the value on newlines, while the @ flag does the same thing as
"${array[@]}" (which could therefore also be written as "${(@)array}"), but
also works in other kinds of expansions, such as $(<filename) used here
(which means  "get the contents of the file").

On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 2:19 PM Bart Schaefer <schaefer@brasslantern.com>
wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 11:05 AM Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca>
> wrote:
> >
> > There's nothing harder than really getting on top of splitting issues :(
> >
> > I have a file with blank lines in it, I read it into a variable
>
> This is probably the place you're getting messed up.  HOW do you read
> it into a variable?
>
> > Other various attempts give me the number of elements being the
> > character count.  Weirdly there's places where I iterate over all the
> > lines in 'List' and it *counts* nine, but only displays five.
>
> Here you've probably done an earlier step right, but are forgetting to
> quote what you're passing to print (or whatever "display" means).  The
> default for arrays on the command line is to remove empty elements
> unless quoted.
>
>

-- 
Mark J. Reed <markjreed@gmail.com>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-01-12 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-12 19:05 Ray Andrews
2024-01-12 19:19 ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-12 19:56   ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-12 20:07     ` Mark J. Reed
     [not found]   ` <CAA=-s3zc5a+PA7draaA=FmXtwU9K8RrHbb70HbQN8MhmuXTYrQ@mail.gmail.com>
2024-01-12 20:03     ` Bart Schaefer [this message]
2024-01-12 20:32       ` Fwd: " Ray Andrews
2024-01-12 20:50         ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-13  2:12           ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-12 20:51         ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-12 21:57           ` Mark J. Reed
2024-01-12 22:09             ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-13  3:06               ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-13  3:36                 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-13  4:07                   ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-13  5:39               ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-13 20:02                 ` Slurping a file (was: more spllitting travails) Bart Schaefer
2024-01-13 20:07                   ` Slurping a file Ray Andrews
2024-01-14  5:03                     ` zcurses mouse delay (not Re: Slurping a file) Bart Schaefer
2024-01-14  5:35                       ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-14 10:34                   ` Slurping a file (was: more spllitting travails) Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-14 10:57                     ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-14 15:36                     ` Slurping a file Ray Andrews
2024-01-14 15:41                       ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-14 20:13                       ` Lawrence Velázquez
2024-01-15  0:03                         ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-15  0:55                           ` Empty element elision and associative arrays (was Re: Slurping a file) Bart Schaefer
2024-01-15  4:09                             ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-15  7:01                               ` Lawrence Velázquez
2024-01-15 14:47                                 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-18 16:20                                 ` Mark J. Reed
2024-01-18 17:22                                   ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-18 17:36                                     ` Mark J. Reed
2024-01-18 17:55                                       ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-18 22:34                               ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-18 23:08                                 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-19  2:46                                   ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-19  2:58                                     ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-19 10:27                                       ` Stephane Chazelas
2024-01-19 13:45                                         ` Mikael Magnusson
2024-01-19 14:37                                           ` Mark J. Reed
2024-01-19 14:57                                             ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-19 15:46                                               ` Mark J. Reed
2024-01-19 16:01                                                 ` Mikael Magnusson
2024-01-19 17:15                                                   ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-19 17:42                                                     ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-19 18:45                                                       ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-14 22:09                     ` Slurping a file (was: more spllitting travails) Bart Schaefer
2024-01-15  8:53                       ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-16 19:57                         ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-16 20:07                           ` Slurping a file Ray Andrews
2024-01-16 20:14                             ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-16 20:38                               ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-16 20:43                                 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-16 22:27                                   ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-15  2:00                     ` Slurping a file (was: more spllitting travails) Bart Schaefer
2024-01-15  4:24                       ` Slurping a file Ray Andrews
2024-01-15  6:56                         ` Lawrence Velázquez
2024-01-15 14:37                           ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-15 15:10                             ` Marc Chantreux
2024-01-15 15:29                               ` Mark J. Reed
2024-01-15 16:16                                 ` Marc Chantreux
2024-01-15 16:33                                   ` MUAs (was: Re: Slurping a file) zeurkous
2024-01-16  7:23                               ` Slurping a file Lawrence Velázquez
2024-01-16 14:37                                 ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-17  3:50                                   ` Lawrence Velázquez
2024-01-17  5:10                                     ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-15  7:26                       ` Slurping a file (was: more spllitting travails) Lawrence Velázquez
2024-01-15 14:48                         ` Slurping a file Ray Andrews
2024-01-15 13:13                       ` Slurping a file (was: more spllitting travails) Marc Chantreux
2024-02-10 20:48                     ` Stephane Chazelas
2024-02-11  0:59                       ` Mikael Magnusson
2024-02-11  4:49                         ` Bart Schaefer
2024-02-11  5:04                           ` Mikael Magnusson
2024-02-11  4:46                       ` Bart Schaefer
2024-02-11  5:06                         ` Mikael Magnusson
2024-02-11  7:09                         ` Stephane Chazelas
2024-01-13  2:19           ` Fwd: more splitting travails Ray Andrews
2024-01-13  3:59             ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-13  4:54               ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-13  5:51                 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2024-01-13 16:40                   ` Ray Andrews
2024-01-13 18:22                     ` Bart Schaefer
2024-01-13 19:08                       ` Ray Andrews

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