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Sat, 21 Jan 2023 09:11:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Bart Schaefer Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 09:11:12 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: A way to untie -T vars? To: Sebastian Gniazdowski Cc: Zsh Users Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Seq: 28691 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-users@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-users-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-users-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: , List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 8:55 AM Bart Schaefer wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 8:38 AM Sebastian Gniazdowski > wrote: > > > > maybe there's a graceful way of untying the vars? > > There's not. There's this (unclear if "graceful"): % typeset -a FOO=($FOO) foo=($foo) This effectively unsets both variables and then immediately resets them to their previous values ... except that it also converts the scalar into a one-element array. For most purposes that will work the same, but not always.