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Sun, 10 Mar 2024 19:35:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20240309143036.xwqm234mtu5wqh2r@chazelas.org> <20240310121359.iuhmf5renmuf6y4z@chazelas.org> <6c783297-aa25-4ff6-8233-185a281a074f@eastlink.ca> <8b8064f6-1310-4d01-804c-ee78ace9b730@app.fastmail.com> <2e33aeab-865a-48cc-8f31-4916d4a0c604@eastlink.ca> In-Reply-To: From: Bart Schaefer Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 19:35:24 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Why would I use .namespace.myvar? To: Ray Andrews Cc: zsh-users@zsh.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Seq: 29733 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-users@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-users-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-users-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: , List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 7:22=E2=80=AFPM Ray Andrews wrote: > > Rather dramatic there with ksh. Goes to show you the > reason that caution should prevail. A similar thing happened with zsh back in the early 90s when Paul F. and I both got real jobs (Paul never came back to zsh) and some others took over for a while. There's a reason you don't really find zsh 2.5 mentioned anywhere. Of those others ... let's just say they'd rather have been working on ksh if it had been open sourced then.