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To: Bart Schaefer Cc: zsh-users@zsh.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114b2d56d2c19c0545e920e2 --001a114b2d56d2c19c0545e920e2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> But I feel I have to advocate for those who oppose any solution which requires signing up anywhere as I can understand those people very well. On this topic: when I try to send an email to zsh-users@zsh.org from my main gmail (foo@gmail) using a different 'From' field (foo2@gmail) it sends an automated response: Delivery to the following recipient has been delayed: zsh-users@zsh.org Message will be retried for 0 more day(s) [and keeps failing] so i need to log to my other gmail (foo2@gmail) that i signed-up with to this mailing list. So looks like there is still a need to sign-up with this approach? [not using my primary email because this mailing list shows email in the open, unlike bug-trackers like the ones I listed] Or am i doing something wrong? On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Bart Schaefer wrote: > On Dec 31, 5:10pm, Timothee Cour wrote: > } > } What are your requirements for tracking zsh issues, and could this be > } accomplished by a standard issue tracker (eg github/gitlab/bitbucket) > } instead of this mailing list ? > > I think the answer to the "instead" part of that question is "no," > if only because of the long-standing practice of linking changes to > discussion threads by use of the list archive article number. > > My personal requirements for any tracker that isn't the zsh-workers > mailing list are (1) somebody else is responsible for operating it; > (2) it's at least as useful to those of us who are updating the code > as it is to the people who just want to report problems; and (3) I > no longer have to carry on this discussion. > > By way of relatively recent analogy, we switched version control from > CVS to git because the people who were proponents of the change got > involved with the process, and provided suggestions/assistance/tools, > and in several cases actually became involved in code maintenance. > Without that degree of commitment to whatever bug tracker you propose > we adopt, continuing to push it is just a distraction. > --001a114b2d56d2c19c0545e920e2--