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From: Zach Riggle <zachriggle@gmail.com>
To: Bart Schaefer <schaefer@brasslantern.com>
Cc: Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>, Zsh Users <zsh-users@zsh.org>
Subject: Re: Globbing symlinks-to-${glob_qualifier}
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 08:10:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMP9c5nZt0Y+eazUmWJryWR4LwudGkw5RCoBm0z+-nKjdDbYLg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH+w=7bUS3JZQVwC2jNonn2beL+3957BBAZHURwihyDiPrUC7g@mail.gmail.com>

> That'll be «*(@-/)» and «*(@-*)» respectively.

Thanks for the info (and hello to France!)

Definitely easier to read and reason about than *(#q-.)(@)

> Under the hood, «-» simply flips between testing the results of lstat(2) and stat(2).

Ah, that's useful information!  Love these implementation details.

> Not an error; just zero matches.  That's not the same thing.

You're definitely correct, my mistake in terminology.  I'm lucky that
I got "qualifier" and "modifier" correct (I think!)

> It does become an error when NOMATCH is set

That's neat!

The "error" that I got was just '/bin/ls' complaining that there is no
file named e.g. '*(@/)' since the glob didn't find anything (and I
don't have nullglob or nomatch set).  For me, it often helps to employ
Python to see exactly what's being passed in:

    $ python -c 'import sys; print(sys.argv[1:])' *asdfasdfasdf*
    ['*asdfasdfasdf*']

    $ python -c 'import sys; print(sys.argv[1:])' *(@/)
    ['*(@/)']

    $ python -c 'import sys; print(sys.argv[1:])' *(@-/)
    ['pwndbg', 'pwntools']

Turning on nomatch does indeed throw an error from zsh.

    $ setopt nomatch

    $ python -c 'import sys; print(sys.argv[1:])' *(@/)
    zsh: no matches found: *(@/)

Interestingly, it appears that nullglob takes priority over nomatch.
Yet another "Today I Learned."

    $ setopt nullglob nomatch

    $ python -c 'import sys; print(sys.argv[1:])' *(@/)
    []

Zach Riggle


On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 11:03 PM Bart Schaefer
<schaefer@brasslantern.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 8:58 PM Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> >
> > Zach Riggle wrote on Wed, 18 Aug 2021 03:27 +00:00:
> > >     $ ls -lad *(@/) # Error
> > >     $ ls -lad *(/@) # Error
> >
> > Not an error; just zero matches.
>
> It does become an error when NOMATCH is set, but not because there's
> anything illegal about writing that qualifier.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-18 13:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-18  3:27 Zach Riggle
2021-08-18  3:57 ` Daniel Shahaf
2021-08-18  4:02   ` Bart Schaefer
2021-08-18 13:10     ` Zach Riggle [this message]
2021-08-18 15:24       ` Bart Schaefer
2021-08-18 16:48         ` Ray Andrews
2021-08-18 17:23           ` Bart Schaefer
2021-08-18 17:55             ` Ray Andrews
2021-08-18 22:28               ` Which options are really doing anything (Re: Globbing symlinks-to-${glob_qualifier}) Bart Schaefer
2021-08-18 23:27                 ` Ray Andrews
2021-08-19  2:32       ` Globbing symlinks-to-${glob_qualifier} Zach Riggle
2021-08-19  4:38         ` Lawrence Velázquez
2021-08-19 13:23           ` Daniel Shahaf
2021-08-19 13:25           ` Daniel Shahaf
2021-08-19 14:38             ` Ray Andrews
2021-08-19 13:54           ` Daniel Shahaf
2021-08-19  4:40         ` Bart Schaefer

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