From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9437 invoked from network); 10 Mar 1999 21:30:55 -0000 Received: from sunsite.auc.dk (130.225.51.30) by ns1.primenet.com.au with SMTP; 10 Mar 1999 21:30:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 29959 invoked by alias); 10 Mar 1999 21:29:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@sunsite.auc.dk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-Seq: 2207 Received: (qmail 29947 invoked from network); 10 Mar 1999 21:29:38 -0000 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 16:29:06 -0500 From: Sweth Chandramouli To: ZSH Users Subject: why is `bare' in bare_glob_qual? Message-ID: <19990310162906.A25254@astaroth.nit.gwu.edu> Mail-Followup-To: ZSH Users Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i to what does the "bare" in bare_glob_qual refer? as far as i can tell, if bare_glob_qual is set, filename generation will accept qlob qualifiers, and if it is not set, it will treat text inside parens in a glob as part of the glob itself; there is, however, no way that i know of to unset bare_glob_qual and then use glob qualifiers in some "un-bare" way. is there? -- sweth. -- Sweth Chandramouli IS Coordinator, The George Washington University / (202) 994 - 8521 (V) / (202) 994 - 0458 (F) * From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15985 invoked from network); 11 Mar 1999 06:43:06 -0000 Received: from sunsite.auc.dk (130.225.51.30) by ns1.primenet.com.au with SMTP; 11 Mar 1999 06:43:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 10640 invoked by alias); 11 Mar 1999 06:42:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@sunsite.auc.dk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-Seq: 2210 Received: (qmail 10633 invoked from network); 11 Mar 1999 06:42:10 -0000 X-Authentication-Warning: awayteam.zanshin.com: schaefer set sender to schaefer@tiny.zanshin.com using -f From: Bart Schaefer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14055.25969.542043.262168@awayteam.zanshin.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 22:40:49 -0800 (PST) To: Sweth Chandramouli Cc: ZSH Users Subject: Re: why is `bare' in bare_glob_qual? In-Reply-To: <19990310162906.A25254@astaroth.nit.gwu.edu> References: <19990310162906.A25254@astaroth.nit.gwu.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.68a under Emacs 20.3.5.1 Reply-To: Bart Schaefer Sweth Chandramouli writes: > to what does the "bare" in bare_glob_qual refer? See zsh_users/1569: My intention is that eventually we will have some other, unambiguous, glob qualifier syntax, which will be available regardless of BARE_GLOB_QUAL. (We need the capability to disable the current qualifier syntax in order to fully emulate ksh glob syntax.) -zefram So "bare" means that they're just sitting there on the end of the pattern, with no special disambiguating syntax to introduce them. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23061 invoked from network); 11 Mar 1999 17:03:26 -0000 Received: from sunsite.auc.dk (130.225.51.30) by ns1.primenet.com.au with SMTP; 11 Mar 1999 17:03:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 712 invoked by alias); 11 Mar 1999 17:01:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@sunsite.auc.dk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-Seq: 2217 Received: (qmail 694 invoked from network); 11 Mar 1999 17:01:51 -0000 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:01:11 -0500 From: Sweth Chandramouli To: ZSH Users Subject: Re: why is `bare' in bare_glob_qual? Message-ID: <19990311120111.A28076@astaroth.nit.gwu.edu> Mail-Followup-To: ZSH Users References: <19990310162906.A25254@astaroth.nit.gwu.edu> <14055.25969.542043.262168@awayteam.zanshin.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <14055.25969.542043.262168@awayteam.zanshin.com> On Wed, Mar 10, 1999 at 10:40:49PM -0800, Bart Schaefer wrote: > Sweth Chandramouli writes: > > to what does the "bare" in bare_glob_qual refer? > > See zsh_users/1569: > > My intention is that eventually we will have some other, unambiguous, > glob qualifier syntax, which will be available regardless of > BARE_GLOB_QUAL. (We need the capability to disable the current > qualifier syntax in order to fully emulate ksh glob syntax.) > > -zefram > > So "bare" means that they're just sitting there on the end of the pattern, > with no special disambiguating syntax to introduce them. but, as of yet at least, there is no non-bare syntax? that is, if bare_glob_qual is turned off, can glob qualifiers still somehow be used? -- sweth. -- Sweth Chandramouli IS Coordinator, The George Washington University / (202) 994 - 8521 (V) / (202) 994 - 0458 (F) * From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23159 invoked from network); 11 Mar 1999 17:10:45 -0000 Received: from sunsite.auc.dk (130.225.51.30) by ns1.primenet.com.au with SMTP; 11 Mar 1999 17:10:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 2089 invoked by alias); 11 Mar 1999 17:09:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@sunsite.auc.dk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-Seq: 2219 Received: (qmail 2082 invoked from network); 11 Mar 1999 17:09:22 -0000 Subject: Re: why is `bare' in bare_glob_qual? In-Reply-To: <19990311120111.A28076@astaroth.nit.gwu.edu> from Sweth Chandramouli at "Mar 11, 99 12:01:11 pm" To: zsh-users@sunsite.auc.dk Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 17:09:19 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL39 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: From: Andrew Main Sweth Chandramouli wrote: > but, as of yet at least, there is no non-bare syntax? Correct. > that is, >if bare_glob_qual is turned off, can glob qualifiers still somehow be >used? No. -zefram From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23341 invoked from network); 11 Mar 1999 17:30:33 -0000 Received: from sunsite.auc.dk (130.225.51.30) by ns1.primenet.com.au with SMTP; 11 Mar 1999 17:30:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 4848 invoked by alias); 11 Mar 1999 17:22:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@sunsite.auc.dk; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes X-Seq: 2221 Received: (qmail 4838 invoked from network); 11 Mar 1999 17:22:08 -0000 From: "Andrej Borsenkow" To: "Andrew Main" , Subject: RE: why is `bare' in bare_glob_qual? Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 20:21:14 +0300 Message-ID: <000501be6be3$90cb3fa0$21c9ca95@mowp.siemens.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 > > -zefram Zefram! Are you really back again? /andrej