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From: Matthew Martin <phy1729@gmail.com>
To: zsh-users@zsh.org
Subject: Re: zsh function breaks after error
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 21:58:30 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YhRfZvnaXG3r1p7q@CptOrmolo.darkstar> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH+w=7ZT-naqkUTNGN59oNCiG84_OoZG2UQxg+xNPOgGA6T-vg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 03:31:08PM -0800, Bart Schaefer wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 8:00 AM Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, resources are out there if you just beat the bushes long enough.
> > But how about if it were all collated and condensed and
> > brought in-house?
> 
> Consensus is hard.  For example, I personally I think tens of
> thousands of lines of history is unnecessary no matter how much RAM
> you have to throw at  it.
> 
> The other question that constantly arises is whether the goal is to
> make the shell more helpful out of the box for relatively
> knowledgeable users, or to make it more attractive to newbies.  If the
> latter, is the most important thing to give it a flashy appearance?
> In either case, where do you draw the line to "get you to 90%"?

For shell configuration in particular consensus seems particularly
thorny because each user has their own opinions on what's sane. Rather
than try to come up with some sane default config, I think
zsh-newuser-install goes in the right direction; however, it seems
nearly all new users find it intimidating. 

I've taken a stab at a newuser like wizard but as a webpage to hopefully
make it more approachable https://storage.googleapis.com/zsh-guide/index.html
If people like it, I can put it on a real domain.  The idea is to just
be good enough to not need a framework and get running in 5 minutes or
so. For what to include I looked at zsh-newuser-install, oh my zsh,
zsh4humans, and zsh-sensible.  The repo is at
https://github.com/phy1729/zsh-guide .


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-02-22  4:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-08 17:16 Thomas Lauer
2022-02-09 15:18 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-02-09 18:45   ` Thomas Lauer
2022-02-09 20:16     ` Bart Schaefer
2022-02-10 13:55       ` Thomas Lauer
2022-02-10 13:59         ` Roman Perepelitsa
2022-02-10 16:20           ` Thomas Lauer
2022-02-10 16:48             ` Roman Perepelitsa
2022-02-10 17:20               ` Thomas Lauer
2022-02-10 21:26                 ` Ray Andrews
2022-02-10 21:45                   ` Thomas Paulsen
2022-02-10 23:37                     ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-02-11 15:07                     ` Thomas Lauer
2022-02-11 14:58                   ` Thomas Lauer
2022-02-11 15:59                     ` Ray Andrews
2022-02-11 23:31                       ` Bart Schaefer
2022-02-12  3:39                         ` Ray Andrews
2022-02-22  3:58                         ` Matthew Martin [this message]
2022-02-12 16:45                       ` Thomas Lauer
2022-02-12 17:48                         ` Ray Andrews

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