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Reed" Cc: Ray Andrews , zsh-users@zsh.org Subject: Re: Slurping a file Message-ID: References: <1f7a3da5-16cf-4572-abe1-ce701a1c9983@eastlink.ca> <9d09693e-b0d3-410f-ad65-db28ace36e70@app.fastmail.com> <97371a1f-6250-4b54-a121-17d15ed5bc47@eastlink.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.103.8 at clamav01 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Renater-Ptge-SpamState: clean X-Renater-Ptge-SpamScore: -100 X-Renater-Ptge-SpamCause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvkedrvdejuddgkeejucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecutffgpfetvffgtfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhepfffhvfevuffkfhggtggugfgjsehtkeertddttddunecuhfhrohhmpeforghrtgcuvehhrghnthhrvghugicuoehmtgesuhhnihhsthhrrgdrfhhrqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpefhtedtgfefkeevkeetudfgfeethfejueevudetfedtteevkeffjedtgfeivdejhfenucfkphepudelgedrvdehgedrvdeguddrvdehtdenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpeduleegrddvheegrddvgedurddvhedtpdhhvghlohepudeftddrjeelrdeliedrkeefpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepofgrrhgtucevhhgrnhhtrhgvuhiguceomhgtsehunhhishhtrhgrrdhfrheqpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopeefpdhrtghpthhtohepmhgrrhhkjhhrvggvugesghhmrghilhdrtghomhdprhgtphhtthhopehrrgihrghnughrvgifshesvggrshhtlhhinhhkrdgtrgdprhgtphhtthhopeiishhhqdhushgvrhhsseiishhhrdhorhhg Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Seq: 29494 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-users@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-users-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-users-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: , List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: hello, On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 10:29:16AM -0500, Mark J. Reed wrote: > MUA ? I was asking if the M in the message from Ray was meant to be MUA. > programs like mutt, ELM, MH, /bin/mail or Mail/mailx. O course for > many of us our=A0MUA is not a standalone program but a web app running > in a browser (e.g. GMail), but that still counts. I really don't think so: * webmail are really painful to use and lack a lot of features available from a classic MUA. I personally still use mutt (with vim as editor and maildir-utils to index and search) just because the "modern" replacements are far to provide all the things I found valuable when writting mail. * I just wrote a script to show the main MUA used by the authors of the messages to the list I haven't deleted. the result is: 1 822_dng. 1 Cyrus-JMAP 1 Evolution 1 ForteAgent 1 K-9 6 Mozilla 2 Mutt I don't know 822_dng so I remove it from the list. so according to my very short pannel, only 1/12th of us is using a webmail. humanity isn't that screwed after all :) regards, marc --=20 Marc Chantreux P=F4le CESAR (Calcul et services avanc=E9s =E0 la recherche) Universit=E9 de Strasbourg 14 rue Ren=E9 Descartes, BP 80010, 67084 STRASBOURG CEDEX 03.68.85.60.79