From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12355 invoked by alias); 23 Jan 2017 23:10:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Users List List-Post: List-Help: X-Seq: 22411 Received: (qmail 25056 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2017 23:10:13 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics: from mta01.eastlink.ca by f.primenet.com.au (envelope-from , uid 7791) with qmail-scanner-2.11 (clamdscan: 0.99.2/21882. spamassassin: 3.4.1. Clear:RC:0(24.224.136.30):SA:0(-3.9/5.0):. Processed in 0.673488 secs); 23 Jan 2017 23:10:13 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.9 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RP_MATCHES_RCVD,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Envelope-From: rayandrews@eastlink.ca X-Qmail-Scanner-Mime-Attachments: | X-Qmail-Scanner-Zip-Files: | Received-SPF: pass (ns1.primenet.com.au: SPF record at _spf.eastlink.ca designates 24.224.136.30 as permitted sender) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=ZvqvEJzG c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=28Ntk8jg+Dho8ABWn/CRtA==:117 a=28Ntk8jg+Dho8ABWn/CRtA==:17 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=-BMzJweL-C1r67ajjZEA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 X-EL-IP-NOAUTH: 24.207.16.108 Subject: Re: Avoiding the zshells intelligence...in one case To: zsh-users@zsh.org References: <20170122080153.GA5042@solfire> From: Ray Andrews Message-id: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:40:06 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.6.0 MIME-version: 1.0 In-reply-to: Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit On 23/01/17 02:26 PM, Bart Schaefer wrote: > > If Meino has URLs where the schema starts with a tilde, though, he's > in worse trouble than this. > Too bad there was no option to just turn *everything* off for the one command. So often we end up fighting the shell's expansions with various incantations whereas: setopt everyexpansionoff command unsetopt everyexpansionoff ... would be so much more understandable. I know it's not the way shells work, but why not? I now understand why this sort of thing can't be done with the 'whence -m' situation but so long as the option was unset before a command is reached, it should be at least possible in theory. Can't the whole expansion engine just be bypassed in one very long jump?