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From: Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca>
To: zsh-users@zsh.org
Subject: Re: uninvited members of associative array
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 15:33:03 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d5fedf1e-65b8-45d7-79cf-5d2ad5225512@eastlink.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH+w=7byXApxAzPj7DRNBVbXds0tTQ+N5dNYMm0B=UdBEZcfGA@mail.gmail.com>


On 2022-12-16 14:15, Bart Schaefer wrote:
>
> I'd appreciate a pointer to that definition, since apparently my PhD
> in Computer Science is from too long ago to have covered it.

Ha!  Sometimes hairs need to be split, and Dominik is surely correct 
that zsh and say C are very different, but to say that zsh isn't a 
programing language will be a chore to sustain.

Daniel:

> You mean that you wrote foo[bar] and didn't realize that was
> a globbing syntax too?  zsh can't disable features because you don't
> know them.

This stuff is all so fundamental that it couldn't change even if 
everyone wanted it to.  Disable isn't the word I chose.  But there is 
something very unfriendly about situations where you're doing something 
with an array index -- and it obvious at least to oneself that this is a 
string thing, and then zsh zealously applies filename expansions to it 
when it has nothing whatsoever to do with files.  I don't mind being 
clobbered, that's part of learning the shell, still it isn't very 
intuitive.  Anyway I've learned the protections.   But one can want to 
do some string globbing and still hope not to have anything to do with 
filenames.




  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-16 23:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-15 23:48 Ray Andrews
2022-12-16  0:05 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-12-16  0:48   ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16  1:29     ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-12-16  2:09     ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16  2:56       ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16  3:21         ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-12-16  4:16           ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 10:05             ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16 14:13               ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 15:19                 ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16 19:14                   ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 16:30                 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-12-16 18:21                   ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 19:04                     ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16 20:10                       ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 21:15                         ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16 21:33                           ` Bart Schaefer
2022-12-16 21:59                             ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16 22:15                               ` Bart Schaefer
2022-12-16 23:33                                 ` Ray Andrews [this message]
2022-12-17 12:47                                   ` Pier Paolo Grassi
2022-12-17 17:32                                     ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-17 18:10                                 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-17 18:19                                   ` Roman Perepelitsa
2022-12-17 20:31                                     ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-17 20:49                                       ` Bart Schaefer
2022-12-17 21:07                                       ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-12-17 21:52                                         ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-17 22:10                                           ` Bart Schaefer
2022-12-17 23:41                                             ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-12-18  0:15                                             ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-18  0:25                                               ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-12-18  2:13                                                 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-18 20:12                                                   ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-12-18 20:26                                                     ` Bart Schaefer
2022-12-18 20:41                                                       ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-18  3:44                                               ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-12-17 23:25                                         ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-12-16 21:33                           ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 20:25                       ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-12-16 21:43                         ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16  3:20 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-12-16  4:15   ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16  8:12 ` Roman Perepelitsa

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