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From: Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca>
To: zsh-users@zsh.org
Subject: Re: ls *.mp4 → ls : invalid option -- 'M'
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 10:03:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d6b094ba-a48b-46ee-831f-03f69c464a01@eastlink.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH+w=7YCqT4Bu9ofmTNiKNtMawxMT4JtqRVK=x=k8ub2zkJhJQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On 2023-10-17 08:55, Bart Schaefer wrote:
> Isn't that a different issue?
> Seems to me everything discussed so far is a case of wanting the shell
> to "do what I mean" without having to explicitly tell it how.

Interesting perspective.  I'd say the exact opposite.  The shell should 
not presume to know what you mean without explicit instruction.  Mind 
... there can of course be defaults, like 'bindkey -e' I think  everyone 
agrees would be the default.  But if I want vi bindings I hafta be 
explicit about that -- no extrapolations from EDITOR or anything else.  
There should be exactly one way to make that change because only one way 
is needed.  My smartphone drives me mental, it's always trying to be 
helpful whether I want the help or not.  So it changes things that I 
don't want changed and God knows how to change them back.  But, with 
something as powerful as zsh, asking for 'simplicity' is always going to 
be a bit naive, naturally.   My perspective is hardly the only one.



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      reply	other threads:[~2023-10-17 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-13  7:59 Denis Bitouzé
2023-10-13  8:15 ` sergio
2023-10-13  8:15 ` Mikael Magnusson
2023-10-13 11:38   ` Denis Bitouzé
2023-10-13 14:46   ` Ray Andrews
2023-10-13 15:13     ` Peter Stephenson
2023-10-13 15:58       ` Ray Andrews
2023-10-16  0:46       ` Bart Schaefer
2023-10-16  4:17         ` Bart Schaefer
2023-10-16  4:25           ` Bart Schaefer
2023-10-16 13:35             ` Ray Andrews
2023-10-16 18:21               ` Bart Schaefer
2023-10-16 19:45                 ` Ray Andrews
2023-10-17  3:49                   ` Bart Schaefer
2023-10-17 14:04                     ` Ray Andrews
2023-10-17 15:55                       ` Bart Schaefer
2023-10-17 17:03                         ` Ray Andrews [this message]

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