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From: Ray Andrews <rayandrews@eastlink.ca>
To: zsh-users@zsh.org
Subject: Re: uninvited members of associative array
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 12:10:22 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eb26fde2-2c5c-bfb1-9012-c69b550cd78d@eastlink.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y5zBPG+WSTC/mG9n@localhost>


On 2022-12-16 11:04, Dominik Vogt wrote:
> I think you have a grave misconception of shells. Shells are
> basically command line interpreters with some text processing.
I know it.  All the extra functionality accreted over the years. It's an 
evolutionary cul-de-sac in that the latter additions are somewhat clumsy 
in as much as they have to contend with the earlier design.  Can't be 
helped.
> There's no
> conception of symbolic values; all input is just text.
Except for those times when I wish it is was 'just text' but instead 
things are expanded.  Anyway how is a variable name not a symbol for the 
contents of the variable?
> Shells are
> are not "programming languages".
That's a strange thing to hear.  A program is a list of things on asks a 
computer to accomplish and zsh accomplishes them.  But you know more 
about all this than I do.
> The shell does not know about
> file names on the command line, it just expands strings to
> filenames if they contain globbing patterns.
>
> Ciao
>
> Dominik ^_^  ^_^
>
> --
>
> Dominik Vogt
>


  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-16 20:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-15 23:48 Ray Andrews
2022-12-16  0:05 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-12-16  0:48   ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16  1:29     ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-12-16  2:09     ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16  2:56       ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16  3:21         ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-12-16  4:16           ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 10:05             ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16 14:13               ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 15:19                 ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16 19:14                   ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 16:30                 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-12-16 18:21                   ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 19:04                     ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16 20:10                       ` Ray Andrews [this message]
2022-12-16 21:15                         ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16 21:33                           ` Bart Schaefer
2022-12-16 21:59                             ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16 22:15                               ` Bart Schaefer
2022-12-16 23:33                                 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-17 12:47                                   ` Pier Paolo Grassi
2022-12-17 17:32                                     ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-17 18:10                                 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-17 18:19                                   ` Roman Perepelitsa
2022-12-17 20:31                                     ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-17 20:49                                       ` Bart Schaefer
2022-12-17 21:07                                       ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-12-17 21:52                                         ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-17 22:10                                           ` Bart Schaefer
2022-12-17 23:41                                             ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-12-18  0:15                                             ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-18  0:25                                               ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-12-18  2:13                                                 ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-18 20:12                                                   ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-12-18 20:26                                                     ` Bart Schaefer
2022-12-18 20:41                                                       ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-18  3:44                                               ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-12-17 23:25                                         ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-12-16 21:33                           ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16 20:25                       ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-12-16 21:43                         ` Dominik Vogt
2022-12-16  3:20 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-12-16  4:15   ` Ray Andrews
2022-12-16  8:12 ` Roman Perepelitsa

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