From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from primenet.com.au (ns1.primenet.com.au [203.24.36.2]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 03359297 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2019 16:56:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21872 invoked by alias); 18 Sep 2019 16:55:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Users List List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: X-Seq: 24254 Received: (qmail 1159 invoked by uid 1010); 18 Sep 2019 16:55:58 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics: from wout2-smtp.messagingengine.com by f.primenet.com.au (envelope-from , uid 7791) with qmail-scanner-2.11 (clamdscan: 0.101.2/25573. spamassassin: 3.4.2. Clear:RC:0(64.147.123.25):SA:0(-2.6/5.0):. Processed in 4.55015 secs); 18 Sep 2019 16:55:58 -0000 X-Envelope-From: d.s@daniel.shahaf.name X-Qmail-Scanner-Mime-Attachments: | X-Qmail-Scanner-Zip-Files: | Received-SPF: none (ns1.primenet.com.au: domain at daniel.shahaf.name does not designate permitted sender hosts) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= daniel.shahaf.name; h=mime-version:message-id:in-reply-to :references:date:from:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=fm1; bh=3gEnq3KDyMNsrhR0EnVdsQNeRN JKfh2tGT7DVvge4Fw=; b=BX59iaB4gPF/KyuyBA2RA6FMUVCXoSP0G0mrrH0fUo a1Ana+ei/q8spvc8Rk74M33+AnosrQwvxdSUAd/paZM4MAphE8kB+sBT7aqXZPFV yoZFrh3SmOs/z+Ds2pZKJ5PjJihvCbu3kDVSfMYzoKla8oCGYk1dKOl9RMhLF3Al ujzidH7Vz0tYZzNOMZZCS5OfnPKzZ7xt0jXXpvlUKZKCHk4iLvo/HsNxqyTWai5W fr7yNrRidl8AMti5XpjnMROkdmvMG54toYvT9H1ntUee7z9kaQXTlfrd2yirL0jY beW9DXp6Y7VnYTZaUwl4mjxQV+Lb/mTpjit4fuVmSogw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=3gEnq3KDyMNsrhR0EnVdsQNeRNJKfh2tGT7DVvge4 Fw=; b=pmb/23/eqL3rfG9Dmkmi1tGD/3FbWGJJqkS3jJJnuOt0OLxwJXW0I6sAB ptoERnODagVpHmQWGS4I5ZoPaR3uornzA0gk0VtSeOXRvr8X4LwM9VGH35LGmc6f 1euiUfzPq2BCjVoG6B78JFWVIVc3l65booppXP/Cbhylm3tWjp2hG6yXayXeTsA7 TAVZ5FNiF9vo3K8dlbDBjRNGC5+kc5lhahpk5/sHWGcEXSpHx3IJ5t3PU67J8q8J ZoOvq/H2PyV/p0vI8q8ZzLg7zDtr8YojQ8+5oH6XDw9t3+lhNDT+lP3Axxopr++k bE66+XeQSKKXwoVKNPPVbMx7IBfNw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedrudekgddutdeiucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepofgfggfkjghffffhvffutgfgsehtqhertderreejnecuhfhrohhmpedfffgr nhhivghlucfuhhgrhhgrfhdfuceougdrshesuggrnhhivghlrdhshhgrhhgrfhdrnhgrmh gvqeenucffohhmrghinhepohhpvghnshhouhhrtggvrdgtohhmpdgtohhrvghinhhfrhgr shhtrhhutghtuhhrvgdrohhrghenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepugdrshesug grnhhivghlrdhshhgrhhgrfhdrnhgrmhgvnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-ME-Proxy: X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.1.7-238-g170a812-fmstable-20190913v1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2369b204-5afc-d523-c713-acf64e153a3f@eastlink.ca> References: <2369b204-5afc-d523-c713-acf64e153a3f@eastlink.ca> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 16:54:53 +0000 From: "Daniel Shahaf" To: "Ray Andrews" , zsh-users@zsh.org Subject: Re: Opensource.com Zsh article Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ray Andrews wrote on Wed, 18 Sep 2019 16:37 +00:00: > On 2019-09-18 9:13 a.m., J=C3=A9r=C3=A9mie Roquet wrote: > > > > It's kind of what happens with other critical pieces of > > infrastructure, like gnupg and openssl, unfortunately=E2=80=A6 > > > So I've heard.=C2=A0 I have no direct experience of any of that tho. Y= ou'd=20 > think that with Linux being so central to so many things now that=20 > there'd be some sort of consortium of companies and governments and=20= > universities to look after the essential software, even to pay the key= =20 > people. Like this one? =E2=80=94 https://www.coreinfrastructure.org/ > Imagine Peter and Bart, etc. getting a dollar an hour for their=20 > work vs. flat nothing.=C2=A0 Linus himself is payed.=C2=A0 And I wonde= r about the=20 > next generation.=C2=A0 When was the last time a new recruit learned ho= w zsh=20 > works down in the engine room? *nod* Cheers, Daniel