From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10956 invoked by alias); 20 Dec 2017 10:14:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-users-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Users List List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: X-Seq: 23011 Received: (qmail 9250 invoked by uid 1010); 20 Dec 2017 10:14:11 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics: from aok120.rev.netart.pl by f.primenet.com.au (envelope-from , uid 7791) with qmail-scanner-2.11 (clamdscan: 0.99.2/21882. spamassassin: 3.4.1. Clear:RC:0(85.128.245.120):SA:0(-1.9/5.0):. Processed in 2.09153 secs); 20 Dec 2017 10:14:11 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Envelope-From: psprint@zdharma.org X-Qmail-Scanner-Mime-Attachments: | X-Qmail-Scanner-Zip-Files: | X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV (5) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 11:01:25 +0100 From: Sebastian Gniazdowski To: Bart Schaefer , Zsh Users Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: A guide to code Zsh natively, without external tools X-Mailer: Airmail (442) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 6 Dec 2017 at 20:58:46, Bart Schaefer (schaefer=40brasslantern.com) wr= ote: > Thanks, Sebastian. If we ever find a volunteer to update the HTML zsh > guide, this could be a useful added chapter. I would want to do this now =E2=80=93 after I looked at plugin with 190 c= ommits, of author that seems skilled, and found many forks there. Looks l= ike it's very hard for people to see through unix magic (piping, capturin= g output, etc). Can I receive a few tips how to contribute the HTML=3F But one more thing decided. Microsoft opened PowerShell 1.5 year ago. It = now runs on Linux and OS X. My thinking is management of reality, not goi= ng into paranoid state and the point is that there's some probability tha= t PowerShell with its piping of objects etc. will make other shells end u= p like it happened with e.g. Nokia or Blackberry. Bad quality of Zsh scri= pts created by users might take part in this. =46or this reason I would also want to submit zredis module again, as it = might yield some strong use case. Innovation is important in not ending u= p like the two companies. I also think plugin managers, neglected by Zsh experts, should be rehabil= itated now. I'm pretty sure nobody on PowerShell will avoid package manag= ers and stick to startup script. But of course the plugin managers fork e= tc. and the native-handbook may help. -- =20 Sebastian Gniazdowski psprint /at/ zdharma.org